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Old 08-07-2007, 12:02 AM
cbloom cbloom is offline
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Default 5/10 middle pair is the new top pair ?

No Limit Hold'em Ring Game (6 max) , 5 players
Blinds : $5/$10

Stacks:
UTG : $740.10
CO : $1447 (Hero)
BTN : $670.45
SB : $1860.80
BB : $881

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG limps, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $45</font>, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($140, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $138</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($416, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $698 (all-in)</font>, Hero ...


Villain is a reg, he's sLAG preflop but pretty standard taggy style postflop.
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Old 08-07-2007, 12:12 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 middle pair is the new top pair ?

i think you can call, it didnt feel like a call but giving him a range it seems v reasonable.


Hand 0: 43.975% 41.31% 02.67% 19805701 1277972.50 { JdTd }
Hand 1: 56.025% 53.36% 02.67% 25582866 1277972.50 { 44, AhJh, AhTh, KhJh, KTs, JhTh, Jh9h, Th9h, 9h8h, 8h7h, 7h6h, 6h5h, KTo }
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Old 08-07-2007, 12:38 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 middle pair is the new top pair ?

i think i like the call, especially if you will be playing with the same villain regularly.
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Old 08-07-2007, 12:43 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 middle pair is the new top pair ?

1 vote for fold.
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Old 08-07-2007, 01:50 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 middle pair is the new top pair ?

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i think you can call, it didnt feel like a call but giving him a range it seems v reasonable.


Hand 0: 43.975% 41.31% 02.67% 19805701 1277972.50 { JdTd }
Hand 1: 56.025% 53.36% 02.67% 25582866 1277972.50 { 44, AhJh, AhTh, KhJh, KTs, JhTh, Jh9h, Th9h, 9h8h, 8h7h, 7h6h, 6h5h, KTo }

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why isnt QJs in his range?
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Old 08-07-2007, 01:50 AM
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who plays top 2 like that?
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Old 08-07-2007, 01:51 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 middle pair is the new top pair ?

you know, i dont fold alot, but i could find one here
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Old 08-07-2007, 01:53 AM
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who plays top 2 like that?

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Same reason you play bottom set like that?
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Old 08-07-2007, 01:54 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 middle pair is the new top pair ?

u cant include all those [censored] OESDs and all those flushdraws in the stove. i hope ucy
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Old 08-07-2007, 01:55 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 middle pair is the new top pair ?

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you know, i dont fold alot, but i could find one here

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sadly though i think getting to the turn in that fashion you technically "should" call, which then makes us rescind to the flop, and the real question should be 'should we call the donk,' and we need to label a donk range for that to be answered. also, is pushing the flop better? and, if calling only to fold a blank is better, the real play is folding the flop.

i guess im SOMEWHAT confused because villain "should" be just checkpushing QJ/44/anything good that is "made" and his draws. oh well!
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