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Pushing too hard with nothing but hopes?
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Hero has Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] in the small blind (2/3 structure) Cutoff limps, button limps, hero completes, big blind checks. Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Hero bets, big blind calls, cutoff calls, button raises, hero three-bets... ======== Hand #2: Hero has 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in the big blind. UTG raises (Tightish raiser but not a total rock. If he has, say, second pair or better, I won't be folding him out), small blind calls, hero calls. Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Sb checks, hero checks, UTG bets, SB calls, hero check-raises, UTG calls (he can't beat the Jack), SB calls. Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] SB checks, hero bets... Both pretty standard lines for me, including calling pre-flop getting 5:1 with my connectors in a three-way pot. SpaceAce |
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Re: Pushing too hard with nothing but hopes?
Hand 1: Usually I would just call the flop raise and go for overcalls. I guess you could get better Q hands (along with other hands we'd like to see fold) to fold. Meh, I suppose you're equity is so high on this flop I guess it's fine. I assume you're leading the turn HU and checking if it's three handed.
Hand 2: You could easily have the best hand here, I like it. Edit: Hand 2 I would probably just lead out on the flop. |
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Re: Pushing too hard with nothing but hopes?
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Both pretty standard lines for me, including calling pre-flop getting 5:1 with my connectors in a three-way pot. [/ QUOTE ] I like both hands, and I'd probably play them the same way. I also call suited connectors getting 3.5:1 on my money. |
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Re: Pushing too hard with nothing but hopes?
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[ QUOTE ] Both pretty standard lines for me, including calling pre-flop getting 5:1 with my connectors in a three-way pot. [/ QUOTE ] I like both hands, and I'd probably play them the same way. I also call suited connectors getting 3.5:1 on my money. [/ QUOTE ] Are you correcting my math or just saying that 3.5 is enough? In this case, there's a raise (2SB) + a call (2SB) and my big blind (1SB). Either way, I call there pretty much every time with suited connectors down to at least 56. I wonder if that's too loose. SpaceAce |
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Re: Pushing too hard with nothing but hopes?
Hand 1 is crazy, just call the flop raise.
Hand 2 is standard, barring some read that SB is decent, which is doubtful. |
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Re: Pushing too hard with nothing but hopes?
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Hand 1 is crazy, just call the flop raise. [/ QUOTE ] Crazy? That's a stretch, I think. I have a gutshot straight draw, a flush draw and an overcard with two almost certainly weak hands trapped between myself and the raiser. I can potentially clean up outs by folding out one or more of the in betweeners or, failing that, tie them to the pot in case I hit one of my million outs. That last part, of course, is purely theoretical as I don't think I have ever hit with a flush+straight draw in my entire poker playing career. SpaceAce |
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Re: Pushing too hard with nothing but hopes?
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[ QUOTE ] Hand 1 is crazy, just call the flop raise. [/ QUOTE ] Crazy? That's a stretch, I think. I have a gutshot straight draw, a flush draw and an overcard with two almost certainly weak hands trapped between myself and the raiser. I can potentially clean up outs by folding out one or more of the in betweeners or, failing that, tie them to the pot in case I hit one of my million outs. That last part, of course, is purely theoretical as I don't think I have ever hit with a flush+straight draw when I bet/3-bet the flop with it in my entire poker playing career. SpaceAce [/ QUOTE ] Standard. |
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Re: Pushing too hard with nothing but hopes?
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[ QUOTE ] when I bet/3-bet the flop with it in my entire poker playing career. [/ QUOTE ] Standard. [/ QUOTE ] You may be on to something, there. SpaceAce |
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Re: Pushing too hard with nothing but hopes?
Hand 1: I think I just call the flop raise. Why blow away the field and let button cap?
Hand 2: I like it. |
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Re: Pushing too hard with nothing but hopes?
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[ QUOTE ] Hand 1 is crazy, just call the flop raise. [/ QUOTE ] Crazy? That's a stretch, I think. I have a gutshot straight draw, a flush draw and an overcard with two almost certainly weak hands trapped between myself and the raiser. I can potentially clean up outs by folding out one or more of the in betweeners or, failing that, tie them to the pot in case I hit one of my million outs. That last part, of course, is purely theoretical as I don't think I have ever hit with a flush+straight draw in my entire poker playing career. SpaceAce [/ QUOTE ] This is not an out cleaning 3-bet. IT's purely an equity play and given your relative position to the flop raiser I don't think it hurts your implied odds too much when you hit on the turn. Krishan |
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