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Old 07-21-2006, 04:53 PM
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Default Two unusual lines

Hand #1:
Button seems tight and passive pre-flop. Post-flop, He'll keep betting any pair or draw as long as you let him. His WTSD is about 40%.

UGT limps, folded to button who raises, I three-bet with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] in the small blind, BB folds, UTG folds (shockingly), button caps.

I put button on AK, JJ, QQ, KK, AA with a remote outside chance that he's getting out of line with a suited connecter or smaller pair.

Flop: 7A3 rainbow

I check, button bets, I call.

Turn: offsuit 9

I check, button bets, I call.

River: 5

I check, button bets, I check-raise...
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Hand #2:
Villain in this hand is very passive pre- and post-flop. I have never seen him check-raise or three-bet post-flop with less than two pair. I have never seen him three-bet pre-flop with less than AK.

Folded to the villain in the cutoff; he raises. I three-bet on the button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. The small blind calls 2 1/3 bets, the big blind calls and the villain caps. We all call.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Checked to the villain who bets. I raise, the blinds drop out and the villain calls.

Turn: small blank

Villain checks, I bet, villain calls.

River: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Villain donks and I just call...


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Old 07-21-2006, 04:57 PM
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Default Re: Two unusual lines

both totally standard given your reads.
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Old 07-21-2006, 05:07 PM
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Default Re: Two unusual lines

Given the read in hand one, I don't see value in check-raising.
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Old 07-21-2006, 05:26 PM
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Given the read in hand one, I don't see value in check-raising.

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we're ahead like 15:1 , so as long as he occasionally calls the c/r with JJ/QQ/KK there's value.
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Old 07-21-2006, 06:12 PM
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Default Re: Two unusual lines

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both totally standard given your reads.

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Well put.....
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Old 07-21-2006, 06:18 PM
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Default Re: Two unusual lines

hand 1... me likey... if you are confident he will bet this river with a smaller ace/an underpair, which i assume you were i really like it... if it were less certain i like a river donk...

hand 2... if you trust your read and it's over a reasonable sample size, which it sounds credible, i think it's fine... given your read i'm not sure what he donks here other than another AK/boat... i really want to say you missed some value on the river, but i can't imagine what this player would cap the flop/lead into you on the river with that you beat...
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Old 07-21-2006, 10:17 PM
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both totally standard given your reads.

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Really? These were departures for me. I rarely use these lines.

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Old 07-21-2006, 10:21 PM
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Given the read in hand one, I don't see value in check-raising.

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He pays off with 100% of pairs that I think he'd raise pre-flop and almost certainly doesn't reraise without a monster.

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Old 07-21-2006, 10:24 PM
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hand 1... me likey... if you are confident he will bet this river with a smaller ace/an underpair, which i assume you were i really like it... if it were less certain i like a river donk...

hand 2... if you trust your read and it's over a reasonable sample size, which it sounds credible, i think it's fine... given your read i'm not sure what he donks here other than another AK/boat... i really want to say you missed some value on the river, but i can't imagine what this player would cap the flop/lead into you on the river with that you beat...

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The villain in hand #1 pretty much keeps on betting as long as you let him once he starts.

The problem in hand #2 is that I couldn't imagine what else he could have, either. So, I called.

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Old 07-24-2006, 04:32 PM
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both totally standard given your reads.

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Really? These were departures for me. I rarely use these lines.

SpaceAce

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kind of a late bump I know.

what is your usual line in these two spots? I'm coming up blank for anything close.
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