67s deep vs 2+2er RR ; good flop

[terp]

i like calling because you take it down more on the turn unimproved than if you raise the flop and he just calls

[krumeluren]

I think most hands that would fold to a turn bet/raise will also fold to a flop raise, unless turn is an ace or a king.

[Austiger]

Can you get 3bet % to show up on PAHUD?

[terp]

also i don't get what you mean by outting him. without his screen name in the post you're not revealing who he is.

[dragonystic]

i think calling would be pretty bad here. if you flop a set, im assuming that you're raising this drawheavy flop pretty much always. and a good player would note that. raising it up looks good. $160 or so.

[Sirasoni]

Raise here is good because you're actually putting money in while ahead, and not when your equity drops tremendously (such as on a blank turn). Consider a pretty bad scenario anyway: you call and a non-diamond Ace or King hits, what then :X (assuming he has AK ofc). Essentially this is a raise because chances are he probably has a big pair anyways and will felt while you still have massive equity.

[MYNAMEIZGREG]

If you have a tight image you should be able to call here and shove over his bet on the turn, or call here, check the turn, and shove pretty much any river if he bets (regardless of if you hit)

[cbloom]

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If you have a tight image you should be able to call here and shove over his bet on the turn, or call here, check the turn, and shove pretty much any river if he bets (regardless of if you hit)

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Yeah I was thinking calling and shoving the turn looks super strong and is more likely to fold out QQ-KK as well as get more money from them when they fold. Of course that only works if he bets like half pot or so on the turn so that I can put in a big enough raise to get a fold.

Obviously raising the flop can't be bad cuz my equity is fine no matter what. For those saying raise, is it primarily because you think he might fold QQ+ ? If you were raised on a board like this would you really fold an overpair? It seems to me that nobody folds a pair these days in RR pots, but people do generally play more scared/cautious when deep cuz they don't want to lose their profits.

[krumeluren]

I dont think he ever folds an overpair here. Maybee QQ. He will prob fold TT-99 and Ax hands. But the pot is big already and worth winning. You don't want to give a free card to hit A or K or a bigger flush and if the flush hits you might not get too much out of QQ+ after you have called the flop (repping a FD). IF he has an overpair you are in a tough spot 3 times out of 4 on turn where you might have to put in more money in the pot with much less equity. Now is the time to do it. IF he has a set well ... let's call it variance.

Edit: Also, playing it fast is a good balancing play for your sets that you will prob play the same.

[carrotsnake]

minraiseaments(almost)