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Old 10-18-2006, 08:37 PM
ReptileHouse ReptileHouse is offline
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Default Re: Enaugh to fold KK preflop

I've folded KK pre-flop exactly once. This situation would not be the second time. I call.
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Old 10-18-2006, 08:55 PM
Don Key E37 Don Key E37 is offline
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Default Re: Enaugh to fold KK preflop?

I know I'll probably get flamed for this. But I've changed my approach with Kings preflop. I wish there was a filter for preflop all ins on pokertracker so I could check it. But I'd be willing to bet that lifetime I am down $ when I get all in preflop with kings against any kind of resonable player. I very very rarely get called by queens, and rarely see a solid player with a full stack push with them. AK sometimes yes but not nearly as often as AA and you still lose sometimes when he has ak.

In this situation I don't see a solid tight player pushing after a raise, reraise, and another reraise without aces. I think its a fold. You can find a better spot than praying no-one has aces and that your hand holds up even if they don't for your 160bb. I fold.
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Old 10-18-2006, 09:44 PM
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Default Re: Enaugh to fold KK preflop?

I guess BB's range is AA-QQ and AKs with most of the AK and QQ combinations removed. 6 AA, 1 KK, 1 QQ, 1 AK is IMO completely reasonable assumption. Fold.
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Old 10-18-2006, 10:03 PM
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Default Re: Enaugh to fold KK preflop?

I think you've discounted AK waaaay too much. Overpushing AK is textbook.
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Old 10-18-2006, 10:07 PM
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Default Re: Enaugh to fold KK preflop?

I've stopped folding AK and QQ preflop, theres no way I'm going to be folding KK
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Old 10-18-2006, 10:11 PM
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Default Re: Enaugh to fold KK preflop?

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I've stopped folding AK and QQ preflop, theres no way I'm going to be folding KK

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Are you over laggy or what? How many profitable times do you get AI PF with AK/QQ? I have enough trouble getting KK AI profitably, but I still dont fold it. Very frustrating, to say the least.
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Old 10-18-2006, 10:12 PM
Dan Bitel Dan Bitel is offline
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Default Re: Enaugh to fold KK preflop?

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I've stopped folding AK and QQ preflop, theres no way I'm going to be folding KK

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Are you over laggy or what? How many profitable times do you get AI PF with AK/QQ? I have enough trouble getting KK AI profitably, but I still dont fold it. Very frustrating, to say the least.

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I'm not overly LAGy at all, but the games at the moment just have a lot more 3betting and 4betting preflop than normal
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