50nl TT on low drawy board facing flop c/r

joseki · #1 10-25-2007, 02:46 PM

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SB ($11.65)
BB ($53)
UTG ($63.15)
MP ($43.65)
Hero ($50.75)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $2, 1 fold, Hero calls $2, 1 fold, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($6.25) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $4, BB raises to $14.5, UTG folds, Hero ...

Jimmayjames · #2 10-25-2007, 02:47 PM

Any reads on the opponent?

joseki · #3 10-25-2007, 02:49 PM

afraid not...this was 2nd orbit w/o any prior history.

Jimmayjames · #4 10-25-2007, 02:55 PM

In my opinion, and the way I play, I'm putting him on a strong overpair. Hands like 88 or 99 would usually bet out on this turn, hoping you completely missed with overcards. His pot-size raise it usually demonstrating strength, but trying to prevent a draw-out (with the flush draw, not so much the straight draw unless you've been splashing around previous hands). This guy could also have trips, but he would usually bet the flop because of the flush draw possibility. Against such a wide hand range with a lack of a read, I'm probably folding this hand against the c/r.

Profish2285 · #5 10-25-2007, 02:56 PM

I think the way this hand played out youre either flipping a coin with AK/AQ of hearts, or youre dominated to an overpair. I let this one go.

tjohnsonr10 · #6 10-25-2007, 02:57 PM

Without any info or history I like a fold. I know this seems weak, but that flop nailed just about every SC or small PP and there are . I think i like fold > RR > call. Calling is worst option even though we are in position as villain is betting big on turn no matter what he has. Also, I like a 3bet pre with it being only 5 handed. I think 3betting 1010 in this spot makes the hand a LOT easier to play.

Profish2285 · #7 10-25-2007, 02:58 PM

I dont like 3 betting against an UTG raise pf w/o a read. I am not sure how many standard villains raise with sc's utg, or even small pp's so you can probably discount those alot. Im tellin ya, its an overpair much more often than not when a villain takes a line like this.

tjohnsonr10 · #8 10-25-2007, 03:07 PM

Profish - you really dont 3bet 1010 an unknown utg raiser 5 handed? Pretty much any player no matter how tight is raised AJ+ and I would imagine 88+ 5 handed. You are ahead of a HUGE part of most players ranges with 1010 5 handed. Also if you dont 3bet and he has an OP we are usually flatting and low ard flop or maybe even c/r. I think we save a lot of money when we 3bet this and can even get villains to lay down hands that beat us on the flop.

joseki · #9 10-25-2007, 03:47 PM

I folded, but it felt weak.

I put him on either a set or combo draw (most likely). He may occasionally show up with a larger overpair, but most often I'd expect a hand like 76s, 5h6h, 66, Ah6h or AhQh.

In any case, my equity isn't great in the best case, and it's [censored] in the worst, right?