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Old 11-05-2007, 11:44 PM
JB1795 JB1795 is offline
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Default $15 QQ Who made bubble mistake?

Hi everyone, first post, 2+2er invited me here to discuss this hand.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t600 with t50 antes (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

Hero (t5755)
Button (t335)
SB (t5655)
BB (t1755)

Preflop: Hero is in CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="red">Hero raises to t1200</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to t5605 (All-in)</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>, Hero calls t4405

Opponents are unknown to me but I thought the BU &amp; SB were very good end game players and BB was a fish. I've made no raises that weren't shoves since my stack got beneath 10x. Normally never min raise here, but I thought the SB couldn't resist shoving a wide range w/ two shorties on the bubble, thinking he'd have a lot of fold equity.

Will post results upon request.
JB
p.s. assume everyone knows the payouts of 67.50, 40.50, 27
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:47 PM
DannyOcean_ DannyOcean_ is offline
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Default Re: $15 QQ Who made bubble mistake?

I think you made a mistake baiting him because there is a player about to bust. If you push, you can pick up the blinds obv, and he folds 99% of the time.

Push: Guaranteed 3rd place and pick up blinds

Minbet: May get it in with a better hand, but risk busting.

I haven't run number but my spidey-sense tells me that pushing is better.
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:49 PM
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Default Re: $15 QQ Who made bubble mistake?

I shove pre, as played I fold after he re-raises.
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Old 11-06-2007, 12:06 AM
ADLinden ADLinden is offline
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Default Re: $15 QQ Who made bubble mistake?

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I shove pre, as played I fold after he re-raises.

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Old 11-06-2007, 12:11 AM
The4thFilm The4thFilm is offline
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Default Re: $15 QQ Who made bubble mistake?

Folding QQ preflop to a reraise with 7.5BB remaining...what crack are you guys smoking?
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Old 11-06-2007, 12:16 AM
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Default Re: $15 QQ Who made bubble mistake?

bubble play... shorty has 1/2 a BB. Hero is in BB next hand. If hero loses this hand, he is all in in the BB...

Run it in sngpt if you want...
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Old 11-06-2007, 12:17 AM
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Default Re: $15 QQ Who made bubble mistake?

im not sure your call is a profitable play,even if he has like JJ here the times you get spiked the 300$ stack can fold a hand while your forced to go all in in the BB, therefore i push PF and fold to his raise.
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Old 11-06-2007, 12:46 AM
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Default Re: $15 QQ Who made bubble mistake?

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I shove pre, as played I fold after he re-raises.

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Old 11-06-2007, 02:55 AM
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Default Re: $15 QQ Who made bubble mistake?

OP, plz never do this again. You are burning money.
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Old 11-06-2007, 02:57 AM
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Default Re: $15 QQ Who made bubble mistake?

If you estimate the villains range to be (99+,ATs+,AJo+) then you are going to be about a 2:1 favorite to win the hand (and I can fairly say to go on to win the tournament) giving you roughly $44 equity in this pot.

If you fold then I think you still have a decent chance to make it to second where you will be contesting the final $27.50 of the prize pool (on top of the $40 guaranteed), I think it is fair to say that unless you are severely short stacked then your equity is going to be greater than $4 (and greater than $44 overall).
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