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Old 10-03-2007, 10:08 AM
CazicT CazicT is offline
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Default NL50 - Simple line check with AK that gets 3 bet upon

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18/11/8 - 89 Hands
I was running at a 13/6 that session
He's got a monster stack, but I didn't see how he got it.

Is the call of the 3 bet with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] correct? Fold to the CB correct?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($196.20)
BB ($50)
UTG ($45.25)
UTG+1 ($50)
MP1 ($54.85)
MP2 ($43.85)
CO ($46.75)
Hero ($49.25)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $8.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 folds, Hero calls $6.

Flop: ($18) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $10</font>, Hero ???
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Old 10-03-2007, 10:45 AM
CallMeJohn CallMeJohn is offline
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Default Re: NL50 - Simple line check with AK that gets 3 bet upon

I think 4bet and call shove PF would be a better line in this spot. He is aggro and he could think you are strealing.

As played, i think the flop fold is fine. He might fold to a push but that would be high variance.
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Old 10-03-2007, 10:51 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - Simple line check with AK that gets 3 bet upon

I don't mind a 4-bet AI here. You will get some FE and you have a hand that likes to see all the cards come out.

I don't think calling is bad here though given that you have position and the size of the raises. If you hit TPTK you can shove and he will have to call with a lot of pairs. You pretty much to fold to his 3-bet though, which sucks because AK/AQ are a decent part of his range.
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Old 10-03-2007, 10:54 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - Simple line check with AK that gets 3 bet upon

I think you played the hand fine, but to balance things out you should 4-bet A,K preflop when in this situation sometimes, and also you can shove the flop sometimes as well.
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Old 10-03-2007, 11:13 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - Simple line check with AK that gets 3 bet upon

This is a steal/resteal situation, so I prefer 4-betting pf.
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Old 10-03-2007, 11:27 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - Simple line check with AK that gets 3 bet upon

Is this really a steal situation even with the limper already in the pot?

I think I really like the push idea if their was more dead money in the pot, but it's probably OK even without it, especially since I read him for having a wider than average 3 betting range, though my read isn't that concrete.

I was pretty much thinking that since I was in position I should call though, but then when I missed the flop and he bet it kinda just seems like I gave him my money by folding, but at the same time, I don't really have much of a hand to fight with.
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Old 10-03-2007, 11:42 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - Simple line check with AK that gets 3 bet upon

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Is this really a steal situation even with the limper already in the pot?

I think I really like the push idea if their was more dead money in the pot, but it's probably OK even without it, especially since I read him for having a wider than average 3 betting range, though my read isn't that concrete.

I was pretty much thinking that since I was in position I should call though, but then when I missed the flop and he bet it kinda just seems like I gave him my money by folding, but at the same time, I don't really have much of a hand to fight with.

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It's fine to fold. I hazard a guess that you are telling yourself "I don't want to let this guy run over me". Sometimes people will be able to run over you because you don't have the goods to "fight back" with. Such is life.
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