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Old 03-06-2007, 03:31 PM
TheGrifter TheGrifter is offline
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Default Re: 10/25NL at Foxwoods.........

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I think the only hand you really beat at this point is JJ or something, and I would check behind.

If he bets even half bot on the river fold.

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Are you kidding me? He called a 1/3 PSB. His range is not exactly sets and flush draws only. He could be calling with 99 and hoping to get to showdown for all we know. His lead could also easily be a "it's obvious you have one pair, now lay it down" bluff attempt.

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This is why I like the line the OP took, provided he checks turn and check/calls river.

If you bet more/push you're going to be way behind when you get called.
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Old 03-06-2007, 03:50 PM
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yes oh well, you have 6k left 3500 in the pot, they're not having sets enough to make it -EV....I'd bet 2500 on the flop and call a push, as played I check turn fold to a river bet unless it's like 1500 because he's very unlikely to bet a worse hand

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This is bad reasoning, DUCY?
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Old 03-06-2007, 04:17 PM
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Default Re: 10/25NL at Foxwoods.........

I like your flop bet. I likely check behind turn and call river bet.
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Old 03-06-2007, 04:21 PM
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Default Re: 10/25NL at Foxwoods.........

Who was the villain in the hand? John?
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Old 03-06-2007, 04:50 PM
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Default Re: 10/25NL at Foxwoods.........

i don't like the small flop bet. you need to bet more on this flop. I don't think it's ever a bad play to get it in on this flop with 3500 in the pot.
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Old 03-06-2007, 04:56 PM
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Default Re: 10/25NL at Foxwoods.........

flop bet is way too small
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Old 03-06-2007, 04:57 PM
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Default Re: 10/25NL at Foxwoods.........

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If you bet more/push you're going to be way behind when you get called.

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lol its the grifter everyone
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Old 03-06-2007, 05:08 PM
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Default Re: 10/25NL at Foxwoods.........

I think that if he bets anymore than 1200 on this flop he may as well just push because he'll be pot committed. What do u guys suggest that he bet here? 2500? Then he's gotta shove the turn on just about any card. That could be the best line, but not the one that I'd immediately choose. I'd rather 1200 flop and check turn try for cheap showdown.

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Old 03-06-2007, 05:17 PM
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Lol if this guy is the same ArmenH at Bodog playing 10/25.

That is all. I'm bitter and angry right now sorry.
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Old 03-06-2007, 07:19 PM
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I can't believe six people called 20 BBs preflop. WTF.

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They didn't. The straddle turns this into a 10-25-50 game.

If you're playing 10-25-50 and 4 people/calling stations try to limp, how much should you raise? Clearly $500 is actually on the small side here (for a live game featuring multiple stations). It would depend on my image and table dynamics, but from the description of the game I pop it to $750 or more when 4 people try to limp in a straddled pot.

Anyway, OP says the villain is solid. He limped UTG in a straddled pot (I am assuming UTG is actually the straddler and so villain is the real UTG player) and called a raise, but only after the SB and BB called. Given the described game (rarely peflop raises, people paying off with marginal hands) I guess it's possible he has a weak hand like two suited cards. Since the SB and BB called the $500, villain could be calling with a marginal hand. He would also know that the limp stations behind him would now probably come along due to "pot odds".

So now OP is in a tough spot. I would check behind here on the turn.

I really don't think he has a set, because he would be foolish to slow play it here. Given that he has $40K and you are the shortstack at $8K, it would be foolish for him to check call a small bet with a set on that flop (with deep calling station to act behind him).

For these reason I think he is only beating you if he turned the flush or rivers you. I call a river bet, and even consider making a think value bet if he checks.
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