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Old 06-21-2007, 11:51 PM
Lego05 Lego05 is offline
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Default 50NL; AQ in 3bet pot flops TPTK

This hand's from a coaching session. It was IMO the most interesting hand from the session so I wanted to see what 2p2 thought?

Villian is 22.03/13.56/1.29



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UTG ($25.60)
MP ($50.25)
Button ($54.45)
Hero ($76.55)
BB ($49.80)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG folds, MP calls $5.50.

Flop: ($17) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, MP calls $12.

Turn: ($41) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $15</font>, Hero ???
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Old 06-21-2007, 11:53 PM
SykoraG SykoraG is offline
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Default Re: 50NL; AQ in 3bet pot flops TPTK

Definately looking at Aces or Kings or a set here. I give up especially with his low aggro.
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Old 06-21-2007, 11:56 PM
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Default Re: 50NL; AQ in 3bet pot flops TPTK

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Definately looking at Aces or Kings or a set here. I give up especially with his low aggro.

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Old 06-22-2007, 12:00 AM
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Default Re: 50NL; AQ in 3bet pot flops TPTK

I would fold this PF. Nit.. I know
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Old 06-22-2007, 12:24 AM
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Default Re: 50NL; AQ in 3bet pot flops TPTK

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I would fold this PF. Nit.. I know

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Seriously?
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Old 06-22-2007, 12:24 AM
dueceman dueceman is offline
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Default position position position...

the UTG limps and MP raises.. with the UTG still to act,regardless of what you do... this to me has become an easy fold for me over time..you are gonna be out of position with a possible two players behind you..and now that you've raised it to 8 what if the UTG calls with a big pair..or if you get reraised PF by MP..? its just a spot that you can avoid easily and really wont lose much in profitability..
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Old 06-22-2007, 12:33 AM
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wtf @ folding preflop. mp can be raising raising pf, utg fold in this situation 99% of the time if hero 3bets.
I bet less on the flop, usually like 10.
Turn is an interesting spot, really dependent on whether villain is capable of floating something like 1010/JJ/AK.
To me, the turn looks like a weak steal attempt. I'd call and probably c/f river ui.
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Old 06-22-2007, 12:43 AM
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wtf @ folding preflop. mp can be raising raising pf, utg fold in this situation 99% of the time if hero 3bets.
I bet less on the flop, usually like 10.
Turn is an interesting spot, really dependent on whether villain is capable of floating something like 1010/JJ/AK.
To me, the turn looks like a weak steal attempt. I'd call and probably c/f river ui.

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You realize if we call MP only has $15 left in a $71 pot. Can we really check fold at that point getting almost 6 to 1?
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Old 06-22-2007, 12:53 AM
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Default Re: position position position...

ok then..so you dont fold Pf..so you are playing this as you've got top pair and best kicker..and the MP is beat.why slowdown ever on the turn? at that point MP has 30 left..put him all in ..i know your check wasnt to induce him to bet so you could put him all in..why not put him to the test.? you are this deep in the hand and his bet of 15 tells you nothing cause you checked..he could be thinkin youve got AK, and is taking a shot cause you checked..
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Old 06-22-2007, 12:53 AM
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You realize if we call MP only has $15 left in a $71 pot. Can we really check fold at that point getting almost 6 to 1?

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I think we can, no way is villain ever pushing anything we beat on the river with those stats.
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