I'm trying this new thing called: checking - Page 3

Suigin406 · #21 10-12-2007, 02:54 PM

if ur gonna check the flop, check the turn too imo...

as played, fine

Kairos · #22 10-12-2007, 03:28 PM

I think cbetting here would be horrible against a 47/6 unless his raising his somehow skewed and he limps JJ+. This would be a pretty easy check against a 12/6 so where is the difference?

djj6835 · #23 10-12-2007, 04:16 PM

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Betting the turn is absolutely horrible. Either bet flop or check it down. Both have their merits depending on what you think his range is here.

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Why? The majority of the time villain has a pp and is trying to hit a set. They aren't really hand reading at all and will fold to a turn bet just as often as a flop bet. I think everytime I've checked down in a spot like this villain ends up showing 44 and I feel like an idiot.

Isura · #24 10-12-2007, 04:23 PM

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Betting the turn is absolutely horrible. Either bet flop or check it down. Both have their merits depending on what you think his range is here.

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Why? The majority of the time villain has a pp and is trying to hit a set. They aren't really hand reading at all and will fold to a turn bet just as often as a flop bet. I think everytime I've checked down in a spot like this villain ends up showing 44 and I feel like an idiot.

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44 isn't folding to a turn bet

djj6835 · #25 10-12-2007, 04:30 PM

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44 isn't folding to a turn bet

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If you say so. I would typically just bet this flop but I just feel like if villain goes into the hand thinking "set value" it doesn't really matter when you bet.

edit: and if you really think 44 isn't folding to a turn bet why don't we just autocheck ever flop with an overpair, bet turn, shove river and get snapcalled by fifth pair?

duckyfuzz · #26 10-12-2007, 04:30 PM

Ya I find I get looked up sooooo light when I bet the turn in spots like this. Checking it down is fine.

tubasteve · #27 10-12-2007, 04:34 PM

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Ya I find I get looked up sooooo light when I bet the turn in spots like this.

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i dont, but ok.

Sirasoni · #28 10-12-2007, 05:27 PM

Check down is fine, I never ever bet this flop without some good read that he folds to a lot of cbets. This is one of the absolute worst flops to ever want to cbet on, 2bet or 3bet pot.

RUDIKULOUS · #29 10-12-2007, 06:00 PM

Wtf 44 is folding to a turn bet a lot

deaders · #30 10-12-2007, 09:16 PM

in my experience, checking the flop in a hand like this and betting the turn you get called by nearly any pair.