10 nl qq 200 bb deep

[zyrrth]

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.05/$0.10 Blinds - 7 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $4.40
BB: $2.00
UTG: $11.20
UTG+1: $1.85
Hero (MP): $28.40
CO: $19.45
BTN: $10.75

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (7 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.40</font>, CO calls $0.40, 2 folds, <font color="red">BB raises all-in to $2.00</font>, Hero calls $1.60, CO calls $1.60

Flop: ($6.05) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players - 1 All-In)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3.00</font>, CO calls $3.00

Turn: ($12.05) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players - 1 All-In)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3.00</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $6.00</font>, Hero


main villain is a retarded 40/7 station and i've won all my money from him

[zyrrth]

turn bet was too small but I had no clue what to do with the sidepot this deep

[toymach776]

Flop bet too small. Make it like $5 or more. This will make the pot a little larger and turn and river decisions a little easier. This board is pretty dry and You are really only beaten by a flopped set or AA-KK, where AA-KK being unlikely given villains line. I dont think any of the two pair hands are likely even given that villain is loose. Agree? What does minraise from villain here mean? Any reads on this? OOP sucks. Tough spot for deep stack. I guess taht you are asking yourself whether committing you remaining stack here is profitable with an "stack to sidepot ratio" approaching 1-1. Less than that if you include the main pot. Would shoving here be spew cause if so Im spewin'.

Now that i look at the hand again, what were you thinking with turn bet? Looks like you are afraid of being against big stack here. Make a bigger turn bet and if he raises shove.

[zyrrth]

i don't know lol
the sidepot just totally threw me off because it created such a huge pot on the flop

[Kos13]

If you 4bet PF, it makes life a lot easier...

[zyrrth]

how much?
also what's my line if i make it 6 and he flatcalls?

i mean this guy called me down with almost everything

[Kos13]

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how much?

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I'd make it $8ish.

EDIT: $6 isn't enough. If he's calling you down super light, make it $9 and take him to valuetown. He has you beat PF like 1/1000 times.

[RapidEvolution]

I think 4betting pf is sexy as well...I think $6 is pretty sexy given that you'll be OOP the rest of the hand. Given the retardedness of the station, I might shove PF. Being OOP vs a station sucks balls. lol

[Albert Moulton]

If you are pretty sure that CO would would have reraised preflop with AA/KK, then you should reraise the short-stack's push to isolate him. Make it at least $6, possibly push. CO might have AQ/AK and call, but as long as you are pretty sure he doesn't have AA/KK it's best to get him out of the pot so you can go heads up with shorty with what's already in the pot as overlay.

As played preflop, KJ/AJ/QJ/JT are probably in the loose CO's range, so bet more on the flop and expect to get called or even raised by as many hands you beat as ones you don't. His range that will do something other than fold to a cb is pretty wide: 33,66,JJ,45s,AJ,KJ,QJs,JTs, and maybe even TT or 99 if he likes to float one street hoping you have AK/AQ. So, bet more on the flop. Bet at least $5 or $6. At that point, you are pretty much pot-committed and you can push the turn and expect most of the Jx hands to call.

As played, his min-raise on the turn seems pretty strange. Did 45s just make a straight? Did he slow play a set? Is he misreading your very small turn bet as weakness and therefore raising with AJ or KJ? I think you should call the min raise, then check/see what he does at the river. Ordinarily, I'd make a block/fold at the river, but if you block for $3 and he goes all-in for just $5 more, it will be hard fold given the pot-odds. So, check/call a small river bet (up to $4). Consider folding to a river push. Given your read of him typically playing very passively post flop, then I don't think he pushes the river with top pair only if you check on the end. On the other hand, if you think he will push top pair, then c/c. And if you think he will call a river push by you with all those Jx hands because he'll feel "pot-committed," then just push the river. It just seems that you feel that the turn min-raise screams strength from this particular player, and in that case you might choose to exercise some caution on this particular river.

I really think you would have been better off reraising preflop enough to either get rid of CO or, if he called, make the pot big enough so your cb is all-in for the size of the pot and he will feel compelled to call with any top-pair hand and many draws.