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Old 09-27-2007, 03:21 AM
terencetsao terencetsao is offline
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Default NL25, toppair, am i valuebetting?

UTG is running 19/16/1.6
UTG has been raising preflop 3 hands in a row, so i decide to 3bet him.
I dont know AQ is good for a value bet on the river, for a player running that stats, does anyone play this hand different?

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $27.60
Hero: $23.90
CO: $25.10
Button: $19.10
SB: $29.05
BB: $34.25

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $1</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, 4 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($5.35, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $2.5</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($10.35, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $3</font>, UTG calls.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($16.35, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $7</font>, UTG calls.

Results:
Final pot: $30.35
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Old 09-27-2007, 03:28 AM
Shaqalicious Shaqalicious is offline
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Default Re: NL25, toppair, am i valuebetting?

you shouldn't be questioning your river bet, considering that you misplayed preflop, flop, and turn

1)reload
2)preflop make it 4-5, that raise is so weak
3) 2/3 pot sized bet on flop
play from there
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Old 09-27-2007, 03:41 AM
terencetsao terencetsao is offline
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Default Re: NL25, toppair, am i valuebetting?

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you shouldn't be questioning your river bet, considering that you misplayed preflop, flop, and turn

1)reload
2)preflop make it 4-5, that raise is so weak
3) 2/3 pot sized bet on flop
play from there

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My pot size bet is smaller because it is a reraised pot preflop, so 1/2 to 1/3 will be fine.
the only mistake was probably my preflop raise was too small.
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Old 09-27-2007, 03:46 AM
Ikaika Ikaika is offline
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Default Re: NL25, toppair, am i valuebetting?

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the only mistake was probably my preflop raise was too small.

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You wish this was your only mistake. You need to bet more on the flop and turn; 3/4 pot flop, 2/3 pot turn and if you think he's retarded and will call 3 bets with a worse A then fire river again or you can just check it back and take down a nice pot.
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Old 09-27-2007, 04:11 AM
Kasane Kasane is offline
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Default Re: NL25, toppair, am i valuebetting?

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My pot size bet is smaller because it is a reraised pot preflop, so 1/2 to 1/3 will be fine.
the only mistake was probably my preflop raise was too small.

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This is tournament thinking straight from tournament books. Does not apply to cash games. You made a mistake on the pf raise, and the flop raise. Listen to the consensus and get over it.

Turn bet size qualifies for donk status.
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Old 09-27-2007, 05:59 AM
ICMoney ICMoney is offline
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Default Re: NL25, toppair, am i valuebetting?

Are you trying to make it cheap for him to bust you?

I always wondering what these weak bets meant.

Anything &lt;1/2 psb is weak - esp if you were the previous aggressor.
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Old 09-27-2007, 06:13 AM
ssdex ssdex is offline
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Default Re: NL25, toppair, am i valuebetting?

Errors in hand-------
1) your 3 bet is way to small--- needs to be 3 minimal
2) your cbet is a little small, build the pot
3) what kind of hand do you put villain on
4) River should be golden----- i would think ur purely betting value here with a villain with those stats.
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