Insane HH from Niagara 10k involving THE Vanessa Rousso (and Shaniac)

[getballed]

Cant believe cbr folded. Well i he shoved that would of gotten vanessa out and would of been a split pot.

but she is a baddie, "nice" call on the river

if annette_15 was old enough she'd take this one down

[postoakpoker]

I would expect the typical player in a $5 stars tourney to at least think before they stacked off w/ 85 in this position. But a named "pro" 400bb deep in a major tourney? Wow, simply astounding. I wonder how surprised shaniac was to see her table top and bottom...

[gobboboy]

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Cant believe cbr folded. Well i he shoved that would of gotten vanessa out and would of been a split pot.

but she is a baddie, "nice" call on the river

if annette_15 was old enough she'd take this one down

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She is 19 and she'd win this tournament 1/300 times just like all the other good players.

[Pudge714]

Curtains,
It is a small chunk of your stack, but it is also impossible for it to be +EV so you can never justify it.
Assuming we raise preflop. Postflop some people will have an expectation of greater than -150 others will have one lower and it is very player dependent.

[curtains]

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Curtains,
It is a small chunk of your stack, but it is also impossible for it to be +EV so you can never justify it.
Assuming we raise preflop. Postflop some people will have an expectation of greater than -150 others will have one lower and it is very player dependent.

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Hmm I don't think that it's impossible for it to be +EV, but okay very unlikely unless you are huge supergenius at postflop play. Perhaps better than anyone whom has ever existed.

However I suspect that with certain game conditions, a very good player can get away with virtually anything. I might be wrong, and I don't pretend to be that player, so I will never have the problem of playing lots of marginal hands due to overconfidence in my ability. I think that a decent number of people do have this problem though. At least the majority of the time that someone makes a play like this, it will be -EV for them.

[durrrr]

curtains if you teach me how to play chess better, i'll teach you how to post on 2p2 better

hint: everyone is retarded and you cant prove them wrong b/c they have troubles reading- instead just laugh and post stnd a lot.

[durrrr]

opening pre is prob fine (85 riv call... reallllllly?) but is pretty close regardless. A flop fold however would be criminally awful.

[NHFunkii]

omg why are people arguing against curtains, what he's saying is both correct and trivially so.
also, obviously fold preflop, and there's no way I fold this flop

[DLizzle]

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omg why are people arguing against curtains, what he's saying is both correct and trivially so.
also, obviously fold preflop, and there's no way I fold this flop

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curtain's involvement in this thread basically ruined it and turned the discussion into useless math garbage. i guess he is right, i don't think anyone is really saying he is wrong, but imo he said nothing of any relevance. I don't think it's totally his fault for the direction things went in here though.

[Bond18]

I'm a huge position nit if my table has some players on it who understand its importance. I'm folding pre.

Flop seems close, and now having read results i doubt i can say what i'd do without being influenced.

Also, huge LOL at Russo.