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Old 11-28-2007, 01:55 AM
Aaron W. Aaron W. is offline
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Default Re: Interesting flop situation with AT

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you can also c-r the turn.

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Old 11-28-2007, 02:00 AM
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Old 11-28-2007, 02:56 AM
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Default Re: Interesting flop situation with AT

I play it exactly the same, but I never know when to call the flop with the intention of raising a turn and imo, most of the time, the difference is small. I think around 0.5bb. Or we consider 0.5bb to be big? I guess it might take you 50 hands to earn 0.5bb in the long run.

Anyway...Take this hand for example.

When you call the flop 3-bet and raise the turn...

If SB calls your turn raise and a river bet, you get 4.5bb. Nice.
If SB folds to your turn raise, you get 2.5bb. Not bad.

If you cap the flop and get a bet on each street, you get 4bb. Nice.
If you cap the flop and SB c/f the turn, you gain 2bb. Not bad.
I guess SB might fold to the cap, where you will only get 1.5bb. Meh.



Now there is a slight chance you are behind...

If you raise the turn and SB 3-bets, you are now getting ~13:1 with maybe 4 outs (his most likely hands here would be TT/55, wighted slightly to the 55, which you have 4 outs against), so you kinda have to call. If you don't improve on the river, you kinda have to call too because you are still getting like 15:1 with top-two pair. In this case it has cost you 5.5bb to showdown a loser. That hurts.

Yes I know that is not all that likely. Whatever, I'm just writing out loud.
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Old 11-28-2007, 05:18 AM
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Looks fine to me. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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