Why don't PLO games run?

Brian O'Nolan · #1 07-10-2007, 06:35 PM

I don't get it. LO8 games go- they can have 6+ running at HG. I'm most familiar with LA, but is there any room in the US that has a regularly running PLO game? Looking at PLO vs. NLHE traffic online it seems like the interest is there.

whorasaurus · #2 07-10-2007, 06:46 PM

floor managers don't want half their card players going BUSTO, i think. bad for business

chucky · #3 07-10-2007, 06:47 PM

PLO runs online because international players play it. PLO mostly does not run in casinos because NLHE players dont want to give up on fish that are in 1/2 NL and LHE games. Additionally, PLO is a higher variance game that many players do not have the bankroll for on regular basis. This is why Vegas during WSOP is main time PLO runs in much of USA.

terp · #4 07-10-2007, 06:58 PM

if you think random donkeys suck at unlimited bet hold them, check out a plo game sometime online. it's like a six-way contest to see who can outstupid everyone else.

people don't raise their standards for playing hands despite average hand strength increasing, they severely overvalue hands like bottom two pair on drawy boards and they never fold draws to 17th nut hands. make it nine-way (live play) instead of six- (online) and there is just a siphoning of money from bad to good with little rake for the house in the meanwhile.

Mano · #5 07-10-2007, 07:15 PM

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I don't get it. LO8 games go- they can have 6+ running at HG. I'm most familiar with LA, but is there any room in the US that has a regularly running PLO game? Looking at PLO vs. NLHE traffic online it seems like the interest is there.

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I would guess part of the reason casino's are less enthusiastic to spread them is that live the game is much slower (fewer hands/hr = less rake) and the dealers have a much tougher time dealing it and make more mistakes (lots of misread hands, exact count of pot, etc.).

Rottersod · #6 07-10-2007, 07:23 PM

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I don't get it. LO8 games go- they can have 6+ running at HG. I'm most familiar with LA, but is there any room in the US that has a regularly running PLO game? Looking at PLO vs. NLHE traffic online it seems like the interest is there.

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I would guess part of the reason casino's are less enthusiastic to spread them is that live the game is much slower (fewer hands/hr = less rake) and the dealers have a much tougher time dealing it and make more mistakes (lots of misread hands, exact count of pot, etc.).

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There simply isn't a market for PLO here in LA. Some of us tried last year and no matter how much we pushed it here and in the PLO forum we couldn't get a regular game going. Hollywood Park spread it at their etables but no one ever showed up.

JP OSU · #7 07-10-2007, 08:52 PM

They run in Oklahoma and Mississippi...

ElDuque · #8 07-10-2007, 09:34 PM

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if you think random donkeys suck at unlimited bet hold them, check out a plo game sometime online. it's like a six-way contest to see who can outstupid everyone else.

people don't raise their standards for playing hands despite average hand strength increasing, they severely overvalue hands like bottom two pair on drawy boards and they never fold draws to 17th nut hands. make it nine-way (live play) instead of six- (online) and there is just a siphoning of money from bad to good with little rake for the house in the meanwhile.

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Um...no one here is saying that PLO play online is world-class, but your characterization is flat-out stupid.

chucky · #9 07-10-2007, 09:48 PM

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if you think random donkeys suck at unlimited bet hold them, check out a plo game sometime online. it's like a six-way contest to see who can outstupid everyone else.

people don't raise their standards for playing hands despite average hand strength increasing, they severely overvalue hands like bottom two pair on drawy boards and they never fold draws to 17th nut hands. make it nine-way (live play) instead of six- (online) and there is just a siphoning of money from bad to good with little rake for the house in the meanwhile.

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Um...no one here is saying that PLO play online is world-class, but your characterization is flat-out stupid.

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Clearly the poster has had bad runs on online PLO. O8 runs in casinos because it is a limit game. PL or NL games need many more players to run effectively.

Envyme_Mvp · #10 07-10-2007, 09:52 PM

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if you think random donkeys suck at unlimited bet hold them, check out a plo game sometime online. it's like a six-way contest to see who can outstupid everyone else.

people don't raise their standards for playing hands despite average hand strength increasing, they severely overvalue hands like bottom two pair on drawy boards and they never fold draws to 17th nut hands. make it nine-way (live play) instead of six- (online) and there is just a siphoning of money from bad to good with little rake for the house in the meanwhile.

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