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Old 07-21-2007, 10:45 PM
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Default Quick foxwoods dealer venting

im playing a little 1-2 today and watch a hand go down. guy on my right bets the turn and lady who has position on him min raises. guy calls.

river check check.

dealer says lets see it. lady says show me your hand. i tell the guy dont turn up your hand you called her. she says no he has to turn up his hand because hes closest to the button and the river went check check. i tell her no shes wrong she made last bet he called, last bettor has to show cards first. after a little banter she shows AK ftw.

she then begins to belittle me saying dont tell me the rules kid. ive been playing for as many years as you have been alive and i live in vegas. its obv her way out in vegas and tells me that even though i was there 2 weeks ago playing in the rio, mgm, and ceasars i was still wrong and have no idea what im talking about. then tells me how online poker is this way as well. (dont know how she has a bankroll cause she was pathetic). so the discussion goes on and on and dealer agrees with her!!!!!! saying that because there was no river action, closest to the button shows cards first. WTF

i obv go up to some floor people and ask them and every single one agrees with me. the dealer, after having a different floor at the table and also reiterating what the other floor had told me still said the floor was wrong! foxwoods dealer school taught them that closest to the button shows first apparently.


dealer > floor obv



cliff notes. old ladies are not smart
and obv foxwoods dealers are still horrible and dont know the rules to the games they deal in.



does anyone actually know of any casinos that do have this rule where closest to button shows first if there is streets with no action.

only time i know this to be true is in limped pots online that are checked all the way down then closest to the button shows.
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Old 07-21-2007, 11:00 PM
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Default Re: Quick foxwoods dealer venting

worst position shows first.. dealer/lady had it right. you are wrong.

she's right about online poker being that way too.

why use the ambiguous "closest to the button".. why not just say the person with the worst position shows first?
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Old 07-21-2007, 11:02 PM
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yes if its checked through the whole way. but if you bet any street and i call you and we go check check for every other street your cards will come up before mine. i then have the option to show or muck if you have the best hand.
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Old 07-21-2007, 11:03 PM
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yes if its checked through the whole way. but if you bet any street and i call you and we go check check for every other street your cards will come up before mine. i then have the option to show or muck if you have the best hand.

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no.. you're absolutely 100% wrong.

edit: just to clarify, i only play on pokerstars.
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Old 07-21-2007, 11:19 PM
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yes if its checked through the whole way. but if you bet any street and i call you and we go check check for every other street your cards will come up before mine. i then have the option to show or muck if you have the best hand.

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no.. you're absolutely 100% wrong.

edit: just to clarify, i only play on pokerstars.

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holy [censored] foot in mouth. just looked at a few sites and im actually wrong. wow i feel like a moron.

sorry old lady who was a 70/3/1 fish. you are right. and you too daryn.


any clue to why this is the rule. it would seem to me that the last person to initiate the action should be the one to show first, regardless of checking on latter streets
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Old 07-21-2007, 11:21 PM
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Old 07-21-2007, 11:31 PM
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wheres the delete this post button lol [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

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Feel better -- live it varies by card room. In some the last aggressor shows first but most that I have played it is by position.

Foxwoods dealers are really bad tho.
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Old 07-21-2007, 11:33 PM
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wheres the delete this post button lol [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

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Feel better -- live it varies by card room. In some the last aggressor shows first but most that I have played it is by position.

Foxwoods dealers are really bad tho.

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yeah i just always thought it was by last aggressor. and figured with floor saying i was right and dealer saying i was wrong i was obv right since 90% of the dealers there are drooling morans. ive never seen so many people who have to deal with money that can not count.
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Old 07-21-2007, 11:43 PM
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any clue to why this is the rule. it would seem to me that the last person to initiate the action should be the one to show first, regardless of checking on latter streets

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Checking is considered an action.

And lol and the first post.
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Old 07-21-2007, 11:51 PM
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any clue to why this is the rule. it would seem to me that the last person to initiate the action should be the one to show first, regardless of checking on latter streets

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Checking is considered an action.

And lol and the first post.

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well i actually just tried it on full tilt. posted BB utg

Q2d flop jj2 i bet get called by BB, turn 2 BB bets into me i min raise and calls me. river check check. my cards go up his go into the muck. so apparently thats how it is on FT and i guess since thats where i play thats what im use to seeing and just assumed that was the way it was
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