Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > PL/NL Texas Hold'em > Medium Stakes

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old 11-19-2007, 01:06 PM
Laetus Laetus is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,005
Default Re: Overpair got CRAI on turn

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
No reads on villain.

[/ QUOTE ]

[ QUOTE ]
Besides people on EVP are in general more passive than on stars etc.

[/ QUOTE ]

[ QUOTE ]
Is it fine to bet/call turn?

[/ QUOTE ]

<yoda voice>Look inside your self and you shall find the answer. </yoda voice>

[/ QUOTE ]
Yeah you are right [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 11-19-2007, 01:34 PM
JackAll JackAll is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: watching 2+2 get crapier daily
Posts: 2,491
Default Re: Overpair got CRAI on turn

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
<yoda voice>Look inside your self and you shall find the answer. </yoda voice>

[/ QUOTE ]
Yeah you are right [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

Yoda is always right. It's what makes him yoda :P
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 11-19-2007, 05:24 PM
overAchiever overAchiever is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 49
Default Re: Overpair got CRAI on turn

I think I would probably call (I am not a master at making laydowns). I really do not think it is big +- EV either way. I guess with TT I would be pretty comftorable calling .... 99 seems borderline. Always a posibility that he thought your turn bet was kind of weak and that he is making a play, maybe he picked up a flush draw and overcard on turn.

The fact that he is in short tilts this to a call for me, plus I place some value on learning when the situation seems so close .... tending to call. I do not think he is a very good player, but if he really had a big hand he had no reason to get fancy, he could have just value bet close to pot oon turn and river to get it All IN.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 11-19-2007, 05:28 PM
Praetor Praetor is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 6,248
Default Re: Overpair got CRAI on turn

lol how could that be the worst case scenario
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 11-19-2007, 06:15 PM
bustowithnobra bustowithnobra is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: IMO
Posts: 406
Default Re: Overpair got CRAI on turn

umm, 9's are usually always beat here... by usually I mean over 50% of the time. Passive villain, is going to push a draw here? float with 6 7 of hearts and push an openended straight flush draw? Going to push A 5? Most of these hands villain would be calling, and check folding or bluffing river. I fold here. If I was going to guess, it looks like A 3 is protecting its hand.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 11-19-2007, 07:13 PM
Laetus Laetus is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,005
Default Re: Overpair got CRAI on turn

[ QUOTE ]
lol how could that be the worst case scenario

[/ QUOTE ]
Hehe

True worst case scenario is if he also has slowplayed sets and overpairs in his range as well etc
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 11-19-2007, 07:16 PM
Hoopster81 Hoopster81 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: between the click of the light and the start of the dream
Posts: 3,648
Default Re: Overpair got CRAI on turn

[ QUOTE ]
Kinda worst case scenario is probably something like below and then it's slightly marginal -EV, but a random fish range could perhaps consists of other crappy hands:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 69.091% 69.09% 00.00% 1368 0.00 { Ah8h, Th8h, 9h8h, 8h7h, 76s }
Hand 1: 30.909% 30.91% 00.00% 612 0.00 { 99 }

[/ QUOTE ]

That range is straight absurd
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 11-19-2007, 07:25 PM
sMethod sMethod is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 325
Default Re: Overpair got CRAI on turn

As played I think I fold his hand range is really large here, hes holding a 2 pair/set type of hand or hes has a big flush draw with 2 overs, either way I think you -EV to put your money in vs what hes holding.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:57 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.