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Old 10-30-2007, 03:04 PM
shpanko shpanko is offline
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Default TPGK facing strange river c/r

Villain is like 23/18/2.5 from mostly data mined hands, though I've played with him a lot. He's a solid tag for sure but knows how to bluff in the right spots. Also I believe he knows I'm a good player (thus he knows I v-bet thin and check behind on turn for pot control with certain hands etc), we don't have a ton of history tangling but we've played a lot of hands at the same table in the past. Anyway what do you think of this river action?

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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Hero (CO): $289.90
BTN: $172
SB: $198
BB: $98
UTG: $455

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, BTN calls $7, SB calls $6, BB calls $5

Flop: ($28) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $18</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $18, BTN folds

Turn: ($64) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($64) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $35</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $173 and is All-In</font>, Hero?
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Old 10-30-2007, 03:07 PM
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Default Re: TPGK facing strange river c/r

Weird, but I guess I fold.
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Old 10-30-2007, 03:11 PM
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Default Re: TPGK facing strange river c/r

I'm confused...
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Old 10-30-2007, 03:13 PM
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Default Re: TPGK facing strange river c/r

his lead is most likely a combo draw of hearts I would think. I would think he either has 76hh missed hearts or rarely 88. I dont know his frequencies at all and im sure u dont either so its really hard to know his bluffing frequency here. I think i call this against the person u describes especially to fet more info on a reg if u are going tp be playing the same level for a while
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Old 10-30-2007, 03:15 PM
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Default Re: TPGK facing strange river c/r

Well, you should never be checking the turn with a monster, so he has to know by the river that your hand is either a missed draw taking a last stab, or Kx.

I think this is really about what level you think he is on, and it is really hard for us to tell since we haven't played with him.
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Old 10-30-2007, 03:18 PM
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Default Re: TPGK facing strange river c/r

also forgot to add ur turn chck makes it look like pot control which i thnk it makes it a easier call
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Old 10-30-2007, 03:22 PM
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Default Re: TPGK facing strange river c/r

I call. I can't really see TPTK+ checking twice postflop.
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Old 10-30-2007, 03:25 PM
Ajahn Ajahn is offline
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Default Re: TPGK facing strange river c/r

Betting the river makes little sense for his flop leading range, unless you're planning to snapcall a raise.
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Old 10-30-2007, 03:28 PM
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Default Re: TPGK facing strange river c/r

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Betting the river makes little sense for his flop leading range, unless you're planning to snapcall a raise.

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What I was trying to get across but u said it so much better [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 10-30-2007, 03:29 PM
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Default Re: TPGK facing strange river c/r

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Betting the river makes little sense for his flop leading range, unless you're planning to snapcall a raise.

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Agree with this pretty much

I think villain's line is interesting if he actually had 76hh
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