AP infinity plus one - New AP Statement

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I hardly "leaked" the transcript. I actually sat on it for a few days. I got this email from Mark today right before I put up that post with the transcript.

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Nat,

In light of the continued furor over my "refusal" to release HHs for the session at issue, I would have thought you would have posted something regarding the information and conversation which I sent you a copy of. Is there a reason for not doing so? Just curious since I gave you carte blanche to publish whatever you wish regarding including my entire conversation with Korea.

I am now trying to locate the hard drive (it has since been replaced) for the laptop I most likely used during that session to try to get the HHs of off that. Unfortunately, I do not have ample time to merely work on satiating the seeming insatiable demands of forum posters. Notwithstanding, I will make every effort to locate the hard drive and take it somewhere to have the data retrieved from it. I really wish in the meanwhile you could update those nice forum folks.

m

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Seif's sig tilts me.

Gary The Greatest Of All Time

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touche sir

[ikestoys]

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I hardly "leaked" the transcript. I actually sat on it for a few days. I got this email from Mark today right before I put up that post with the transcript.

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Nat,

In light of the continued furor over my "refusal" to release HHs for the session at issue, I would have thought you would have posted something regarding the information and conversation which I sent you a copy of. Is there a reason for not doing so? Just curious since I gave you carte blanche to publish whatever you wish regarding including my entire conversation with Korea.

I am now trying to locate the hard drive (it has since been replaced) for the laptop I most likely used during that session to try to get the HHs of off that. Unfortunately, I do not have ample time to merely work on satiating the seeming insatiable demands of forum posters. Notwithstanding, I will make every effort to locate the hard drive and take it somewhere to have the data retrieved from it. I really wish in the meanwhile you could update those nice forum folks.

m

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Seif's sig tilts me.

Gary The Greatest Of All Time

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loled irl

[DesertCat]

There is no way any competent DBA doesnt keep backups of their entire history, on tape, DVD, hard drive. And while they might be doing 30M+ hand histories per month now, it had to be much less historically. And if they dont have a competent DBA, how does that site stay running?

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I am not claiming it is admissible evidence.

I am speculating on Absolute's decision making process in regards to the purpose of the transcript.

Who "leaked" it?

For what purpose?

To whom, and why?

And why did the recipient of the leaked transcript decide to publish it, while presumably withholding further information pertaining to the Seif issue and the Absolute issue on the whole?

There are fortunes at stake here - nothing happens by accident. As evidenced by Absolute's evolving position in regards to the cheating, everything is being carefully measured and managed.

The Seif issue is an important one, not to determine whether he cheated or not, but rather it has become the flash point for determining the lifespan of Absolute's hand histories and therefore the ability to determine the presence of cheating beyond the 30 gig "window".

Absolute has unofficially claimed that only 30 gigs, or about two months, of hand histories are retained at any given time.

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As has already been pointed out by Nat, this was not leaked at any step. Seif GAVE this to Nat, who POSTED it, clearly explaining that Seif sent it to him.

And what possible importance is it what AP "unofficially" claims about anything?

At least pretend to be informed before you post such nonsense.

[Ps3tn0NcYk]

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I hardly "leaked" the transcript. I actually sat on it for a few days. I got this email from Mark today right before I put up that post with the transcript.

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Nat,

In light of the continued furor over my "refusal" to release HHs for the session at issue, I would have thought you would have posted something regarding the information and conversation which I sent you a copy of. Is there a reason for not doing so? Just curious since I gave you carte blanche to publish whatever you wish regarding including my entire conversation with Korea.

I am now trying to locate the hard drive (it has since been replaced) for the laptop I most likely used during that session to try to get the HHs of off that. Unfortunately, I do not have ample time to merely work on satiating the seeming insatiable demands of forum posters. Notwithstanding, I will make every effort to locate the hard drive and take it somewhere to have the data retrieved from it. I really wish in the meanwhile you could update those nice forum folks.

m

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Thanks for clarifying.

I was under the impression that someone other than Seif provided you the transcript. Specifically, that it was "leaked" to you.

My mistake.

Do you have any insight into Absolute's policy toward archiving hand histories? The 30 gig policy seems outrageous. Hand histories are effectively business "receipts". How long has the 30 gig policy been in effect?

Were the DOJ or CIA to investigate money laundering through the use of Abolute's poker software, would Absolute really shrug their shoulders and say "Oooops. Sorry. Although we are a multi-million dollar operation supported by a technological infrastructure, we can only store the equivalent amount of data as a iPod". Better luck elsewhere."

Something stinks.

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There is no way any competent DBA doesnt keep backups of their entire history, on tape, DVD, hard drive. And while they might be doing 30M+ hand histories per month now, it had to be much less historically. And if they dont have a competent DBA, how does that site stay running?

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True True

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I hardly "leaked" the transcript. I actually sat on it for a few days. I got this email from Mark today right before I put up that post with the transcript.

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Nat,

In light of the continued furor over my "refusal" to release HHs for the session at issue, I would have thought you would have posted something regarding the information and conversation which I sent you a copy of. Is there a reason for not doing so? Just curious since I gave you carte blanche to publish whatever you wish regarding including my entire conversation with Korea.

I am now trying to locate the hard drive (it has since been replaced) for the laptop I most likely used during that session to try to get the HHs of off that. Unfortunately, I do not have ample time to merely work on satiating the seeming insatiable demands of forum posters. Notwithstanding, I will make every effort to locate the hard drive and take it somewhere to have the data retrieved from it. I really wish in the meanwhile you could update those nice forum folks.

m

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Thanks for clarifying.

I was under the impression that someone other than Seif provided you the transcript. Specifically, that it was "leaked" to you.

My mistake.

Do you have any insight into Absolute's policy toward archiving hand histories? The 30 gig policy seems outrageous. Hand histories are effectively business "receipts". How long has the 30 gig policy been in effect?

Were the DOJ or CIA to investigate money laundering through the use of Abolute's poker software, would Absolute really shrug their shoulders and say "Oooops. Sorry. Although we are a multi-million dollar operation supported by a technological infrastructure, we can only store the equivalent amount of data as a iPod". Better luck elsewhere."

Something stinks.

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I don't really know any more about this policy than you do at this point. I agree it's pretty dumb to not save them.

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I have read here that

1. Seif is suspected of having a device to see hole cards

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2. that he has lost about a million dollars on the AP site

Until someone refutes 2 I don't think I'm going to believ 1

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2 doesn't preclude 1. The theory, still unproven, is that he only made use of the holecard cam in a fit of rage to teach stuckinpgh a lesson and never did it again.

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Then let's call his winnings there a comp for a very big whale. If I played against him, I'd let him use the KnowItAll machine once a week or so just to keep him happy.

[ikestoys]

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I hardly "leaked" the transcript. I actually sat on it for a few days. I got this email from Mark today right before I put up that post with the transcript.

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Nat,

In light of the continued furor over my "refusal" to release HHs for the session at issue, I would have thought you would have posted something regarding the information and conversation which I sent you a copy of. Is there a reason for not doing so? Just curious since I gave you carte blanche to publish whatever you wish regarding including my entire conversation with Korea.

I am now trying to locate the hard drive (it has since been replaced) for the laptop I most likely used during that session to try to get the HHs of off that. Unfortunately, I do not have ample time to merely work on satiating the seeming insatiable demands of forum posters. Notwithstanding, I will make every effort to locate the hard drive and take it somewhere to have the data retrieved from it. I really wish in the meanwhile you could update those nice forum folks.

m

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Thanks for clarifying.

I was under the impression that someone other than Seif provided you the transcript. Specifically, that it was "leaked" to you.

My mistake.

Do you have any insight into Absolute's policy toward archiving hand histories? The 30 gig policy seems outrageous. Hand histories are effectively business "receipts". How long has the 30 gig policy been in effect?

Were the DOJ or CIA to investigate money laundering through the use of Abolute's poker software, would Absolute really shrug their shoulders and say "Oooops. Sorry. Although we are a multi-million dollar operation supported by a technological infrastructure, we can only store the equivalent amount of data as a iPod". Better luck elsewhere."

Something stinks.

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We have corroboration that this was the policy before the scandal broke... so it might be true.

[Ps3tn0NcYk]

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I am not claiming it is admissible evidence.

I am speculating on Absolute's decision making process in regards to the purpose of the transcript.

Who "leaked" it?

For what purpose?

To whom, and why?

And why did the recipient of the leaked transcript decide to publish it, while presumably withholding further information pertaining to the Seif issue and the Absolute issue on the whole?

There are fortunes at stake here - nothing happens by accident. As evidenced by Absolute's evolving position in regards to the cheating, everything is being carefully measured and managed.

The Seif issue is an important one, not to determine whether he cheated or not, but rather it has become the flash point for determining the lifespan of Absolute's hand histories and therefore the ability to determine the presence of cheating beyond the 30 gig "window".

Absolute has unofficially claimed that only 30 gigs, or about two months, of hand histories are retained at any given time.

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As has already been pointed out by Nat, this was not leaked at any step. Seif GAVE this to Nat, who POSTED it, clearly explaining that Seif sent it to him.

And what possible importance is it what AP "unofficially" claims about anything?

At least pretend to be informed before you post such nonsense.

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Why so confrontational?

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And what possible importance is it what AP "unofficially" claims about anything?

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An agent of Absolute claims that the company -- the same company that relies entirely on a technology infrastructure -- only retains the total of hand histories that can be stored on an iPod.

This egregious oversight is too convenient, for a number of reasons.

[1] Absolute's financial damages are contained to 30 gigs of hand histories, or about two months. Any cheating that occurred outside of that 30 gigs of storage is undetectable and therefore will not be included in the settlements sent to the aggrieved parties.

[2] The accusations against Seif cannot be verified, in effect "stick saving" this individual's reputation vis a vie not having to face the "acid test". A reputation which presumably retains a great deal of value and would result in loss were it to be inescapably tarnished.

[3] What if Absolute's software and platform was being used to launder money (the primary reason why poker was made illegal in the U.S., along with political pressure from brick and mortar casinos)? An entirely plausible, if not likely, scenario. Any investigation would hit a dead end after the 30 gig limit.

I think "Korea" is not, uhm, fully informed about AP's HH storage policy. Were I a shareholder of AP, and I was not benefiting from the cheating, I would demand that all HH's be retained for auditing purposes. Specifically to verify the amount of rake and ensure others aren't skimming off the top.