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Old 05-09-2007, 10:08 PM
re-nakken re-nakken is offline
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Default 5/10 - Tricky spot with turned flush

Villain is a below average regular. Seen him openlimp CO and Button many times. Limpcalls raises OOP often. No stats.

Seat 1: Villain ($1877.52)
Seat 2: Hero ($1000.00)
Seat 3: LTDKK84 ($2557.00)
Seat 4: ivanrober ($1005.00)
Seat 5: Dr_Rock ($1019.00)
ivanrober posts the small blind of $5.00
Dr_Rock posts the big blind of $10.00
LTDKK84 is the button
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Jd Td]
Villain calls $10.00
Hero raises $50.00
LTDKK84 folds
ivanrober folds
Dr_Rock folds
Villain calls $50.00
*** FLOP *** [2d 5s 5d]
Villain checks
Hero bets $80.00
Villain calls $80.00
*** TURN *** [2d 5s 5d] [9d]
Villain checks
Hero bets $180.00
Villain raises $360.00
Hero..
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Old 05-10-2007, 04:30 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 - Tricky spot with turned flush

hero pushes all-in.
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Old 05-10-2007, 08:10 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 - Tricky spot with turned flush

I'm not sure I love a turn all-in particularly based on how much he's raising the turn. You're in position, call turn and reassess. If you were OOP, I think a push on the turn would be a strong play. However, you've got position, use it.

I'm trying to think about all the +/- regarding a check behind on the turn as an alternative. Let's imagine you connect with the river in anyway shape or form having checked turn...A v-bet would be appropriate, right? Having checked the turn, I think you're getting a river v-bet called by a wide range from said villain.

I also think another problem with pushing here is unless the villain can put you on TT+, he will call your all-in with most 9 hands <97s, obv. any 5 and maybe 77/88...? Which means, IMHO, you're relying on the maths almost always to win you the hand. BUT, you're also relying on a bad player to make a big lay-down, something you should rarely do.

If you call min-turn raise, and you don't connect with the river, in position, you can comfortably get away from a villain river bet.

Yeah, having thought about this, I like a check behind on the turn; v-bet river if you complete; scoop monies.
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Old 05-10-2007, 08:15 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 - Tricky spot with turned flush

PS - based on the way you played it....

turn: call
river (Option 1) if you hit: lead for 3/4 pot (fold to jam if you've only made top pair; call raise if you hit flush [that hasn't double-paired board])
river (Option 2) if you don't hit: c/f
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Old 05-10-2007, 08:24 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 - Tricky spot with turned flush

Golden, We got the flush already. :-)
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Old 05-10-2007, 08:31 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 - Tricky spot with turned flush

lol all that thought for nothing! i don't know what's wrong with me! that's 3 times i've done that recently!!

EDIT: p0000000000000000sh!
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Old 05-10-2007, 08:47 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 - Tricky spot with turned flush

I `m not a MS player yet, but i like call/ call more. If we push, how many hands we beat will call? He often has a PP here or SC`s (eg 45/56). We shouldlet him bluff at the river. I don`t like a push.
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Old 05-10-2007, 10:06 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 - Tricky spot with turned flush

He will call with any 5, and probably any overpair.
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