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Old 11-19-2007, 02:47 AM
J.A.K. J.A.K. is offline
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Default Re: 2nd Chance: Need A Calling Range v Shaun

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77/AT+

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lol

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Then WTF are you asking for?
some arbitrary range that makes a decision right?
OBV Shaun can make this with a wide range. A 2p2r is in the BB... I hope he is aware...so his range tightens somewhat....but I'm not "In the Loop" so wtf/e


and if u are not tghtening the range,,,then seriously....W T F?
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Old 11-19-2007, 02:58 AM
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Default Re: 2nd Chance: Need A Calling Range v Shaun

I think affording Shaun any pair, any ace, any paint card, prolly any suited connectors and maybe even like most Ts isn't unreasonable (so that's 60%). Sure he's sometimes folding T7 but he's also sometimes pushing ATC.

3 580 / (1 170 + 4 180 + 3 580) = 0.400895857

so I mean we can call with 98o and 87s according to that.
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Old 11-19-2007, 03:05 AM
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Default Re: 2nd Chance: Need A Calling Range v Shaun

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OBV Shaun can make this with a wide range. A 2p2r is in the BB... I hope he is aware...so his range tightens somewhat

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Right he knows who Adam is, but he also knows he's got an M of 3.5, he's got first in vig, 4/9 people folded to him and all but one of the remaining villains would be calling AI or putting in > 75% of their stack to call him.
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Old 11-19-2007, 03:39 AM
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Default Re: 2nd Chance: Need A Calling Range v Shaun

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77/AT+

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lol

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Then WTF are you asking for?
some arbitrary range that makes a decision right?
OBV Shaun can make this with a wide range. A 2p2r is in the BB... I hope he is aware...so his range tightens somewhat....but I'm not "In the Loop" so wtf/e


and if u are not tghtening the range,,,then seriously....W T F?

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If Shaun only shoved hands which were unexploitable shoves you should be calling wider than that. I'm basing this on nothing, but something like any two face cards, any ace, any pairs, lots of suited kings, K7+, lots of suited queens, Q8+, J7s+, J9o+ sound rightish, but I'm just pulling this out of my ass.
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Old 11-19-2007, 03:40 AM
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Default Re: 2nd Chance: Need A Calling Range v Shaun

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Then WTF are you asking for?

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I'm asking because it was an interesting spot and it would improve my game to be able to make good decisions in these spots

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some arbitrary range that makes a decision right?

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Yes, I'd like to be able to know which hands I can call with in order to gain +EV in this spot or avoid -EV by making a poor call. Sorry?

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OBV Shaun can make this with a wide range. A 2p2r is in the BB... I hope he is aware...so his range tightens somewhat....but I'm not "In the Loop" so wtf/e

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Not sure what you're going on about here. If you are asking about how Shaun views me in order to gain more info about the hand, thats fine. Shaun probably views me as tight and unwilling to make marginal EV calls in this spot.


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and if u are not tghtening the range,,,then seriously....W T F?

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I think your range was wayyyyyy too tight. Not calling Shaun's shove with 66 is a collosal mustake in my opinion.



No need to flip out man...
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Old 11-19-2007, 03:52 AM
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Default Re: 2nd Chance: Need A Calling Range v Shaun

If you close your eyes and click call it's better than closing your eyes and folding.
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Old 11-19-2007, 05:20 AM
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Default Re: 2nd Chance: Need A Calling Range v Shaun

KK+ / AKs imo ftw
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:01 PM
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Default Re: 2nd Chance: Need A Calling Range v Shaun

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Then WTF are you asking for?

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I'm asking because it was an interesting spot and it would improve my game to be able to make good decisions in these spots

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some arbitrary range that makes a decision right?

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Yes, I'd like to be able to know which hands I can call with in order to gain +EV in this spot or avoid -EV by making a poor call. Sorry?

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OBV Shaun can make this with a wide range. A 2p2r is in the BB... I hope he is aware...so his range tightens somewhat....but I'm not "In the Loop" so wtf/e

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Not sure what you're going on about here. If you are asking about how Shaun views me in order to gain more info about the hand, thats fine. Shaun probably views me as tight and unwilling to make marginal EV calls in this spot.


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and if u are not tghtening the range,,,then seriously....W T F?

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I think your range was wayyyyyy too tight. Not calling Shaun's shove with 66 is a collosal mustake in my opinion.



No need to flip out man...

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Sorry...I get d r u n k and think I'm smart in that not at all sort of way. I really have no business posting here. I am, however, highly qualified to lurk.
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