QQ time to fold? 200NL

Grandezza · #1 11-13-2007, 08:56 AM

villain is something like 36/0/1.6 over 30 hands. both his 3-bet and 5-bet were insta.

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Hero ($207.20)
SB ($150.55)
BB ($39)
UTG ($200)
MP ($236.43)
CO ($211.81)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises to $6, SB raises to $10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $28, SB raises to $46

riske · #2 11-13-2007, 09:19 AM

setmine? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

AaronOC · #3 11-13-2007, 09:44 AM

don't 4 bet and set mine, i know we have queens and he is pretty unknown but i always play pretty cautiously against guys with these type stats who minraise me because they always seem to turn up with aces here

* but sample size is very small so i could be completely off base

Korean_Airline · #4 11-13-2007, 09:45 AM

The size of villain's last raise kind of bugs me. $18 more to your raise. You haven't committed much money.. I suggest to fold =)

riske · #5 11-13-2007, 09:56 AM

He has to call $18 into a pot that will be $92 on the flop, with a villain that will more than likely go all-in with his AA for about $100 more. I say setmine.

djshawk · #6 11-13-2007, 09:57 AM

Is it best to 4-bet and fold or to call the 3-bet here?

I never know what to do when I get min 3bet by a passive donk. Most of the time I'll just call and try to showdown cheaply. It's unlikely he's going to slam down a psb and you have pos. Is just calling the 3bet terrible?

Korean_Airline · #7 11-13-2007, 09:57 AM

I'm sorry guys, but what is the definition of setmine?

AaronOC · #8 11-13-2007, 09:59 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Is it best to 4-bet and fold or to call the 3-bet here?

I never know what to do when I get min 3bet by a passive donk. Most of the time I'll just call and try to showdown cheaply. It's unlikely he's going to slam down a psb and you have pos. Is just calling the 3bet terrible?

[/ QUOTE ]i think that calling the 3 bet is so much better than 4 betting in this situation, i don't think he ever has worse than queens here

AaronOC · #9 11-13-2007, 10:00 AM

[ QUOTE ]
I'm sorry guys, but what is the definition of setmine?

[/ QUOTE ]calling with a pocket pair with the goal of flopping a set and check folding if you don't

riske · #10 11-13-2007, 10:00 AM

I think both plays are fine, sample is too small to conclude that he only ever 3bets KK+.