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Old 11-20-2007, 02:13 PM
alwardc4 alwardc4 is offline
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Should home-court advantage be weighed perhaps a little less for these games?
Crowd-size should be smaller and less enthusiastic than normal since most students will be hopping out of town.
Obviously away-team is still traveling to an unfamiliar environment but I was under the assumption that the influence of the fans in attendance made a difference to the home-team also.

I remember going to a couple of Tuesday-before-Thanksgiving games and mid-majors like Miami-Ohio and Wright St and sometimes the crowds are less than half of what they would normally be.

Just something to think about anyway.

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Yeah, I think this is an interesting point. It probably holds more weight with a school like Miami because its not a big commuter school. The effect may not be as large for a school like Akron.

I wish my Muskies were playing at Miami this week instead of last.
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Old 11-20-2007, 02:27 PM
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Default Re: 2007-2008 CBB mechanical Home small faves System

Right. When I went to a game at Wright St which I think I remember being the Tues before Thanksgiving, the crowds was only a little smaller than it would otherwise be...because WSU is a commuter school for the most part and because they were playing Miami who brought a handful of fans of their own.

Miami is not a commuter school.
I went to some Tues-before-Thanksgiving games when I was a kid as well as Dec 20 or Dec 27 type games where the crowd was easily under 2,000 because all the students were away and Oxford pretty much becomes a ghost-town.
I think they've mostly concluded that they should just stop bothering to even schedule home-games during that period.

But I can see where it wouldn't make as much of a difference at a commuter-school and I really don't know anything about the teams that Naj has listed for tonight.

Definitely think that home-crowd and noise was helpful for Miami's big win against Xavier.
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Old 11-20-2007, 02:29 PM
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Default Re: 2007-2008 CBB mechanical Home small faves System

But I still note that I really have no idea how much the crowd actually plays a role in home-court advantage.
I travelled around with Miami-Ohio's womens basketball team a lot too and they are playing for crowds of about 300 in most of the places they go.
Even with such really small crowds in much larger arenas I think the home-team still had a noticeable advantage.
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Old 11-20-2007, 03:49 PM
NajdorfDefense NajdorfDefense is offline
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Default Re: 2007-2008 CBB mechanical Home small faves System

just a reminder that 'hated biggest rival' games like XU-Cinci and LV-Kentucky and StJoes v Nova v Penn are exempt.
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Old 11-20-2007, 04:02 PM
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Is that because the away fans travel when they play a rival?

Also, good looking out, MicroBob. I think the fact that students go home for Thanksgiving is a big enough factor to bet significantly less on this week's games.
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Old 11-20-2007, 05:05 PM
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my guess is it's due to rival teams being fired up and expecting a hostile crowd where normal road opponents get overwhelmed sometimes in a hostile environment during close ball games.
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Old 11-20-2007, 07:55 PM
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Iowa St moved to a PK on Bodog
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Old 11-20-2007, 08:31 PM
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Samford -2
UtahSt -2.5

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other 2 have moved to PK/+1 and are out.
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Old 11-20-2007, 08:52 PM
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Samford -2
UtahSt -2.5

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IN for a unit on both. Though I got Samford at -4.5 [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 11-21-2007, 12:04 AM
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Default Re: 2007-2008 CBB mechanical Home small faves System

Naj,

How do you grade these? I thought that you have to wait until 1 hour before tip to confirm the play... so Samford -2 really shouldn't be the graded line right? More like Sam -4.
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