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Old 10-16-2007, 05:26 PM
Praetor Praetor is offline
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Default Re: JT flops bottom two as PFR OOP

I like open shove or check, and I agree cf turn
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Old 10-16-2007, 05:37 PM
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Default Re: JT flops bottom two as PFR OOP

Nice river pwnage sir.
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:07 PM
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Default Re: JT flops bottom two as PFR OOP

like CR allin on river
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Old 10-16-2007, 08:18 PM
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Default Re: JT flops bottom two as PFR OOP

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i think you should c/f turn btw.

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Why are we calling the flop then?
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Old 10-16-2007, 09:22 PM
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Default Re: JT flops bottom two as PFR OOP

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i think you should c/f turn btw.

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Why are we calling the flop then?

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b/c he could be raising a draw on the flop. but after we call his raise and he fires again on the turn his hand range is skewed towards hands that beat ours.

That being said, i'm not sure I necessarily agree w/ c/fing the turn. I mean aggro opponents are surely capable of continuing to fire w/ combo draws. I don't know w/ this villain though.

by the way, river shove is pretty sweet - but i'm pretty sure you would've stacked him w/ a CR too, given your line.
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Old 10-17-2007, 01:53 AM
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Default Re: JT flops bottom two as PFR OOP

Against a player like that I think I might even consider folding that flop. Is that bad?
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Old 10-17-2007, 02:26 AM
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Default Re: JT flops bottom two as PFR OOP

You probably woulda stacked him with the river CR too, but then likelyhood of stacking him is higher with the open allin, no? All this given that he has the flush of course.
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Old 10-17-2007, 03:12 AM
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Default Re: JT flops bottom two as PFR OOP

lead turn for 450, call shove.
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Old 10-17-2007, 03:26 AM
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Default Re: JT flops bottom two as PFR OOP

It makes me feel like a nit, but I want to fold the flop so bad.
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Old 10-17-2007, 03:28 AM
Big_Jim Big_Jim is offline
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Default Re: JT flops bottom two as PFR OOP

As played, river looks like a great spot for a c/r.

If he was bluffing, he'll always follow through here, and if he has a flush, he probably stacks off no matter what you do.

I just don't see many hands that raise the flop for value and then check the turn that don't fit in these categories.
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