Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > PL/NL Texas Hold'em > Medium Stakes
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old 10-10-2007, 02:44 PM
FGators FGators is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 7,339
Default Re: combo hand 10/20

[ QUOTE ]
Wow, I really like a min-raise here. Raise it anyway!

Your hand is well disguised.

Villain could easily be semi-bluffing a flush draw or trying to get you off AK, AQ.

If Villain shoves, fistpump and call. If Villain calls shove any non diamond turn.

[/ QUOTE ]

Wtf? We are fist pumping if he shoves?
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 10-10-2007, 02:49 PM
Roy Gonzo Roy Gonzo is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Munich
Posts: 66
Default Re: combo hand 10/20

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Wow, I really like a min-raise here. Raise it anyway!

Your hand is well disguised.

Villain could easily be semi-bluffing a flush draw or trying to get you off AK, AQ.

If Villain shoves, fistpump and call. If Villain calls shove any non diamond turn.

[/ QUOTE ]

Wtf? We are fist pumping if he shoves?

[/ QUOTE ]

Gotta be optimistic! Actually it is not a fistpump because I think we're way ahead but because I really enjoy to fistpump when money goes into the pot!
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 10-10-2007, 03:03 PM
FGators FGators is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 7,339
Default Re: combo hand 10/20

lol I'm done trying in this thread.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 10-10-2007, 03:09 PM
jfish jfish is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: what else is on my mind grapes?
Posts: 8,150
Default Re: combo hand 10/20

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
go all in

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree, but don't shove.

[/ QUOTE ]

i usually 3bet without shoving, but is there a reason you do this specifically?
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 10-10-2007, 03:09 PM
fslexcduck fslexcduck is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: brooklyn
Posts: 4,531
Default Re: combo hand 10/20

[ QUOTE ]

I think its a fold without a true read.

[/ QUOTE ]



hahahahahhahahahahahahhaha

lolololol


hahahahha
ahah
aha

sorry, whoa, just got done peeing my pants. wait a sec wait something is coming wait

hahhahahhahahhahhahahhhahahahhhaha
hahhahahhahhhhhaahhahaahahahhhahahahhhahah
ahhahahhahhhhhaahhahaahahahhhahahahhhahah
ahhahahhahhhhhaahhahaahahahhhahahahhha
hahahhahahhahhhhhaahhahaahahahhhahahah
hhahahahhahahhahhhhhaahhahaahahahhhaha
hahhhahahahhahahhahhhhhaahhahaahahahhh
ahahahhhahahahhahahhahhhhhaahhahaahaha
hhhahahahhhahahahhahahhahhhhhaahhahaah
ahahhhahahahhhahahahhahahhahhhhhaahhah
aahahahhhahahahhhahahahhahahhahhhhha
ahhahaahahahhhahahahhhahahahhahahhahh
hhhaahhahaahahahhhahahahhhahahahha
hahhahhhhhaahhahaahahahhhahahahhhahahahha
hahhahhhhhaahhahaahahahhhahahahhhahah
ahhahahhahhhhhaahhahaahahahhhahahahhh
ahahahhahahhahhhhhaahhahaahahahhha
hahahhhahahahhahahhahhhhhaahhahaahaha
hhhahahahhhahahahhahahhahhhhhaahh
ahaahahahhhahahahhhahahahhahahhahhh
hhaahhahaahahahhhahahahhhahahahh
ahahhahhhhhaahhahaa

phew!



ok sorry um i like a shove.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 10-10-2007, 03:11 PM
Colombo Colombo is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: boston
Posts: 1,810
Default Re: combo hand 10/20

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
go all in

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree, but don't shove.

[/ QUOTE ]

i usually 3bet without shoving, but is there a reason you do this specifically?

[/ QUOTE ]

I just feel it's best to let him have the last bet in this situation.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 10-10-2007, 03:16 PM
JKratzer JKratzer is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: not necessarily stoned, but beautiful
Posts: 3,448
Default Re: combo hand 10/20

[ QUOTE ]
I can't see calling here...we don't get called if we make the straight if the guy is decent and the deuce and seven of diamonds could NOT be clean outs. Add in that we are likely facing a large bet on the turn and we are likely around 18% at best on the flop if we see two cards.

Also if we make two pair or three sixes it could boat our opponent up so those odds there aren't too attractive.

I think its a fold without a true read.

[/ QUOTE ]

this is meant to be helpful fgators.

folding really isn't an option on the flop. there is a good chance he is doing this as a bluff. besides that, he really isn't putting me on a 4, i raised pre and c-bet. i figure if i make my straight that the most likely course is he would try to represent it and i get paid off.

"18% at best on the flop" i just don't get.

because we had so little history i decided to just call and reevaluate. getting all-in on the flop (one way or another) is certainly valid.

i think the interesting part was flop but if anyone wants to weigh in on the rest of the hand here it is.

Flop: ($210) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $150</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $400</font>, Hero calls $250

Turn: ($1,010) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero checks

River: ($1,010) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero..
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 10-10-2007, 03:19 PM
Requin Requin is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Back online
Posts: 6,446
Default Re: combo hand 10/20

I think most people who limp PF aren't good enough for a bet to be good here.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 10-10-2007, 03:27 PM
FGators FGators is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 7,339
Default Re: combo hand 10/20

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]

I think its a fold without a true read.

[/ QUOTE ]



hahahahahhahahahahahahhaha

lolololol


hahahahha
ahah
aha

sorry, whoa, just got done peeing my pants. wait a sec wait something is coming wait

hahhahahhahahhahhahahhhahahahhhaha
hahhahahhahhhhhaahhahaahahahhhahahahhhahah
ahhahahhahhhhhaahhahaahahahhhahahahhhahah
ahhahahhahhhhhaahhahaahahahhhahahahhha
hahahhahahhahhhhhaahhahaahahahhhahahah
hhahahahhahahhahhhhhaahhahaahahahhhaha
hahhhahahahhahahhahhhhhaahhahaahahahhh
ahahahhhahahahhahahhahhhhhaahhahaahaha
hhhahahahhhahahahhahahhahhhhhaahhahaah
ahahhhahahahhhahahahhahahhahhhhhaahhah
aahahahhhahahahhhahahahhahahhahhhhha
ahhahaahahahhhahahahhhahahahhahahhahh
hhhaahhahaahahahhhahahahhhahahahha
hahhahhhhhaahhahaahahahhhahahahhhahahahha
hahhahhhhhaahhahaahahahhhahahahhhahah
ahhahahhahhhhhaahhahaahahahhhahahahhh
ahahahhahahhahhhhhaahhahaahahahhha
hahahhhahahahhahahhahhhhhaahhahaahaha
hhhahahahhhahahahhahahhahhhhhaahh
ahaahahahhhahahahhhahahahhahahhahhh
hhaahhahaahahahhhahahahhhahahahh
ahahhahhhhhaahhahaa

phew!



ok sorry um i like a shove.

[/ QUOTE ]

What do you expect to see here?
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 10-10-2007, 03:29 PM
FGators FGators is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 7,339
Default Re: combo hand 10/20

I figure his limp calling range is generally right in this territory (33,55,66,65). Are you planning on calling a $1000 bet on the turn on this turn card?
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:53 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.