I feel so dumb posting this

[JJH3984]

This is retarded, and I generally hate this kind of post, but I recently found myself in a rotation LHE/LOmaha High game. I'm pretty sure that everyone in the game is really bad at LOH, but I really have no idea because its a stupid game and I've never learned it. I feel like I'm missing a lot of value though because I don't know what I'm doing, especially preflop:

Does anyone have any idea about starting hand selection in this kind of game... or know of a place where I can find it. The game tends to be 7 or 8 people to the flop for one bet or 7 or 8 to the flop for two. There may be a raise once per round though.

I hate games where I have to c/f overpairs.

[Flip-Flop]

Learning a new game will take much more then a generic PF hand chart.

Your best bet is to find a book on the subject.
Check out the Book and Publications section.
It looks like big part of Sam Farha`s new book is on LOH (I haven`t read it and not planing to) but the book isn`t getting any good reviews in BaP.

[JJH3984]

Flip,

I know that, believe me. I'm not looking for a way to "learn the game" with one post. Really, I just need some idea of how to begin. I've already checked out everything I could find on the subject, and I think it's all bad. I haven't looked at Farha's book, but my guess is that its not much better than the section in Cloutier's book.

You mean AKQJ is a good hand? Thanks TJ.

The problem is that no one plays LOH so no one has published good material about it. Anyway, I'm not looking for a fix, I just want a starting point.

[cmyr]

play coordinated starting hands, where all the cards you're dealt work together. Bet the nuts, and draw to the nuts. Do not draw to a nonnut hand, especially if you aren't hu. Assuming clueless opposition your value will come from people calling with nonnut flush draws and made nonnut straights.

[pete fabrizio]

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play coordinated starting hands, where all the cards you're dealt work together. Bet the nuts, and draw to the nuts. Do not draw to a nonnut hand, especially if you aren't hu. Assuming clueless opposition your value will come from people calling with nonnut flush draws and made nonnut straights.

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in limit? I'd think drawing to the nuts would be much less important than in PL. playing *big* cards, on the other hand, would probably be much more important.

[cmyr]

i think drawing to a hand that's dead is going to be pretty bad despite the limit structure. Similarly I think flopping top two with big cards and not knowing where you're at against a bet and multiple calls isn't much fun.


Note that I don't necessarily believe that I'm correct, but rather feel obliged to defend myself.

[OrrLives]

I skimmed through the Farha book yesterday and he gave lots of differences between LOH and PLO.

One item I remember is that in PLO, both AKQJ and 7654 are good hands. But 7654 is significantly worse at LOH because you cannot protect your hand as much.

But, if you there are 7 to the flop and almost no raising in your game 7654 is probably worth a limp.

[Troll_Inc]

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I skimmed through the Farha book yesterday and he gave lots of differences between LOH and PLO.

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Like one you can play and the other you can't?

[OrrLives]

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I skimmed through the Farha book yesterday and he gave lots of differences between LOH and PLO.

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Like one you can play and the other you can't?

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You talking about me or Farha? If it's me, why be an a$$?

[RoundTower]

I think in a loose live LOH game nut draws will be more important than in a similar PLO game.