flop top 2 3way

ShowUthExit · #1 10-30-2007, 10:11 PM

pretty early on in Fifty Fifty on FTP.... the big stack just got moved here, no reads on either of them. Should I b/f the turn or give up now or what?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Donkament
Blinds: $20/$40
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $3890
Hero: $1810
MP1: $2936
MP2: $7819
MP3: $2210
CO: $1680
Button: $3230
SB: $2615
BB: $2765

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, Hero calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 raises to $120, 4 folds, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($420, 3 players)
Hero bets $300, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($1320, 3 players)
Hero ?

ssnyc · #2 10-30-2007, 10:13 PM

checks to see what develops

JSmith2007 · #3 10-30-2007, 10:18 PM

I hate checking in spots like this. Just gives too much opening for someone to bluff off.

I bet out $300 again and see what develops. I think you'll probably get one limper with TPTK/something similar with a high spade and then one of them will fold. I don't think either has the flush right now, unless they shove/jam hard to your bet.

ssnyc · #4 10-30-2007, 10:25 PM

betting 300 seems like a scared invite to shove bluff...what's our plan when they do shove? I think I'd rather catch a tentative bluff than waste chips without a plan

JSmith2007 · #5 10-30-2007, 10:28 PM

Fold to a shove. I don't think anybody is going to try and bluff here without anything big. I just don't think checking is the best option with this pot as OP has played it. 300 may not be the best bet amount either though. What about 600?

ssnyc · #6 10-30-2007, 10:33 PM

rather a bigger bet to head off a bluff...300 looks like what it is...I have a good hand but am scared and can be moved off...problem is why commit chips if we plan on folding to a raise...check and I may just call a push cause it looks like a bluff...if we check and both get involved we can exit gracefully

ShowUthExit · #7 10-30-2007, 10:34 PM

Alright, I let my time click down and couldnt decide whether to check or b/f. I decided I wasnt deep enough to bet/fold it and just checked. At the same time I thought maybe I could gain some info from there actions despite checking to them.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($420, 3 players)

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($1320, 3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $699, MP3 calls, Hero ?

JSmith2007 · #8 10-30-2007, 10:39 PM

Yeah, as ssnyc said above, with both MP2 and MP3 calling a bet, it's an easy fold right now to me. Sets and flushes now come into ranges and I doubt you're good here alot of the time.

Easy fold, I suppose a check was the right play, but I still lead out with a bet just to get more of a read on the player.

hamnegger · #9 10-30-2007, 10:41 PM

overcalling? no way. had mp3 folded id shove against this big stack who may be thieving.

ShowUthExit · #10 10-31-2007, 12:07 AM

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, Hero calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 raises to $120, 4 folds, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($420, 3 players)
Hero bets $300, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($1320, 3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $699, MP3 calls, Hero folds.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($2718, 2 players)
MP2 checks, MP3 checks.

Results:
Final pot: $2718

MP2 shows QT
MP3 shows AsKx

So, should I just write this off as a freak occurence or did I misplay the hand somewhere?