TT v squeeze 100bb

[jfish]

guy in middle is unremarkable and i think he has a slowplayed big pair so rarely that we can discount it entirely for simplicity's sake. btn is somebody you guys know better than i do. i hear hes aggro and im sure hes capable of squeezing here. hoenstly if it was an unknown i just muck pf.

anyways, so his squeeze actually makes this pot a bit bigger than a regular rr pot (23bb) and i only have 100bb stack so having 4-5x pot should really affect my decision here (i think?). also, because his rr is larger than usual there i obviously have to setmine less and play it as a pair more. that being said, i dont know anything about his game to really do much but unfortunately c/f a lot (probably incorrectly) on the flop.

also, if you call would you prefer the other guy called or folded? this might be a pointless question, but i cant imagine him overcalling would be good for you.

and finally, order your preferred decision. ie: 4bet > shove > fold > call.


Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Wad: $181.70
plzlemmewin: $631.90
Mano Nera: $879.10
Hero: $420.10
here4biznss: $492.20
CookbytheBook: $842.70

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
Mano Nera folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $14.00</font>, here4biznss calls $14.00, <font color="red">CookbytheBook raises to $58.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $420.10</font>

[RickOSU]

nvm

[obiedman]

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anyways, so his squeeze actually makes this pot a bit bigger than a regular rr pot (21.5bb) and i only have 100bb stack so having 4-5x pot should really affect my decision here (i think?). also, because his rr is larger than usual there i obviously have to setmine less and play it as a pair more.

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because of this i think it is pretty bad for you if the other villain calls, which makes me more prone to 4bet since our call gives him a lot of incentive to call behind us with a lot of his range. IMO i think 4bet &gt; shove &gt; call &gt; fold though, as cook can certainly be making this move with a wide range.

[ipokeder]

imo, if his reraise is larger it usually means that he has 99 or JTs or something and less likely he has AA-QQ, esp since he's in position

not to mention if he has JJ you easily have fold equity vs that hand

[ipokeder]

so yes basically mad standard, it's not the individual hand that matters but how you incorporate this move into your game tha tmatters

[king_of_drafts]

I'd fold &gt; 4bet &gt; shove &gt; call, I only 4bet if villain is crazy out of line

[Parlay Slow]

this is fine.. folding is 0 EV, shoving is prob like +$1 EV and calling is anywhere from -EV to +EV depending on a lot of stuff

[jfish]

so josh and i did some math on this and found out he has to fold roughly 59% for this to breakeven. i think thats lowe enough to the point where this is +ev.

[Josh.]

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I'd fold &gt; 4bet &gt; shove &gt; call, I only 4bet if villain is crazy out of line

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how does 4-betting work here? with TT you're committed vs a shove unless you minraise

[Parlay Slow]

josh is such a geek about analyzing these spots

ps I think you'll find my +$1 EV estimate is about right on