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Old 11-20-2006, 09:31 PM
aflaba aflaba is offline
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Default 3/6 - donked into, holding KK

Opponent is 30/12 or so, but it is over only 100 hands. I'm unsure about both flop and turn. What does he have? What would you do?




Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $3/$6
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $796
UTG+1: $901.60
CO: $600
Hero: $552
SB: $617.25
BB: $845.80

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $27</font>, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($87, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $60</font>, Hero calls, SB folds.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($207, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $126</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $465</font>
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Old 11-20-2006, 09:46 PM
Guitarmy Guitarmy is offline
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Default Re: 3/6 - donked into, holding KK

Im not sure why being bet into on the flop is being "donked into" but I would raise the flop because thats a pretty draw heavy board. Also it puts him to a decision and makes him define his hand.

Although this play also defines your hand, you have to play it this way to protect your overpair.
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Old 11-20-2006, 09:48 PM
Morrek Morrek is offline
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Default Re: 3/6 - donked into, holding KK

Raise flop. If not, turn is fine. Also reload to max buyin
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Old 11-20-2006, 09:53 PM
tcorbin16 tcorbin16 is offline
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Default Re: 3/6 - donked into, holding KK

yeah raise the flop. if not you played this hand well imo.
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Old 11-20-2006, 10:04 PM
aflaba aflaba is offline
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Default Re: 3/6 - donked into, holding KK

Thanks for the comments.

If I didn't have the king of diamonds, would you still like a flop raise? Or a call + fold on a turned diamond?
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Old 11-20-2006, 10:06 PM
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Default Re: 3/6 - donked into, holding KK

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Im not sure why being bet into on the flop is being "donked into"

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Sorry, that's just what I call any bet that is bet into the guy with initiative. I know most player's don't use the term the same way I do. My mistake to use it when communicating.
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Old 11-20-2006, 10:12 PM
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Default Re: 3/6 - donked into, holding KK

A6 of diamonds is a very slight favorite/coin flip in this position against your over pair (though not a made hand). You allow second pair, diamond draw to catch trips or a diamond. Put your money in on that flop. The donk bet will most likely fold to a reraise (perhaps putting you on AK, KQ). He has you beat if he reraises you. Find out where your KK is on this flop.
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Old 11-20-2006, 10:27 PM
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Default Re: 3/6 - donked into, holding KK

Raising and folding to a push is lighting money on fire vs many players.

Raising and calling a push is lighting money on fire vs some players.

Calling and seeing what happens can never be a huge mistake but may not be optimal against certain people. If facing a push will make you vomit then I'd prefer just calling.

Having an actual read would help a lot though.
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Old 11-21-2006, 06:54 AM
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Default Re: 3/6 - donked into, holding KK

You used the term correctly.

Raise flop.
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Old 11-21-2006, 06:57 AM
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Default Re: 3/6 - donked into, holding KK

you played your hand fine. raising here against some players is not only unneccessary, it is just stupid. With your limited read, the OP is ok
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