Rockies fans are gonna be pissed. Braun Wins ROY

[sublime]

WARP 3 >>>>> WS

also i am quite confident WARP 3 doesnt capture how good TT is in the field and how bad braun is.

wow this is not worth my time.

[sublime]

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you seem to be overrating defense by an insane amount.

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um, no. YOU seem to underrating it by an insane amount. also the importance of position.

[dkgojackets]

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WARP 3 >>>>> WS

also i am quite confident WARP 3 doesnt capture how good TT is in the field and how bad braun is.

wow this is not worth my time.

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ah yes, even the stat you hand select doesnt prove your point. Why not make up your own, then you can have it spit out whatever you want.

[sublime]

UM READING IS GOOD FOR BRAIN

[sublime]

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ah yes, even the stat you hand select doesnt prove your point

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uh 2007 warp3

braun 4.8
TT 10.8

if you read my posts i say he is at least twice as more valuable.

also LOL @ 'hand select'.....its the best stats available for these purposes. if that 'hand selected' stat said they were close to equal we wouldnt be having this debate.

[Vyse]

Actually WARP3 isn't. Even BP would admit that.

Simply gonna notify all your posts troll ^^

plz don't feed the trolls, let's resume the rest of the thread

[sublime]

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Actually WARP3 isn't. Even BP would admit that.

Simply gonna notify all your posts troll ^^

plz don't feed the trolls, let's resume the rest of the thread

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ok genius whats the best position adjusted 'available' metric for discussing players overall worth?

[dkgojackets]

So I dids some research on the warps and saw hanley ramirez has a higher warp1 and warp3 and the same warp2 as tulowitzki.

So is this a good stat or not? Obv must fail because you said tulowitzki should be mvp over hanley, amirite?

[J.R.]

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why the irrational hate for jimmy rollins by people? position adjusted he is the most valuable player on the phillies going forward, yet everybody blows howard and utely.

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I down with the TT love but is this a typo?

Utley crushes Rollins at the bat, even giving Rollins the positional boost, and Utley is a better 2b than Rollins is a SS. Or if you want to add in the positional adjustment on defense, then Rollins is little more valuable defensively but Utley crushes him as a hitter.

[Vyse]

no rollins 11.5 warp3 utley 10.8 rollins = MVP obv