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Old 09-17-2007, 10:17 AM
Carlson411 Carlson411 is offline
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Default Trip Report Caesar\'s AC, NJ.

Took a bus trip to Casesar's around 11am. Bus showed up late and it was the smallest bus ever. We finally get to Caesar's at 12:30pm and the bus terminal keeps us on the bus for like a half hour. I'm in a rush and a bit nice from drinking my Courvoisier and Redbull. So I push my girls family and run to the bathroom and than run to Wild Wild West where the tourny started a long time ago. I'm like whatever. I run to Caesar's for the tourny at 1pm and I reach at 1:10pm and the guy tells me no I can't join.

I normally play internet NL tournys and 2/4 limit cash games. I haven't played live poker since April this year. I sign up for 4/8, 5/10 limit and 1/2 and 2/5 NL. I look around Caesar's poker floor for 10mins. The cocktail waitresses are pretty beat. The dealers are chill, but no hot ones like Showboat. This ain't the Rio or the Wynn, but what can you do. So I sit down at the 1/2 NL table with a $120 stack. My table is filled with men in the 40-50 age range and 3 guys around my age. I forgot exactly how loose 1/2 NL actually is. I was counting 5-6 to a flop. Thought I was in heaven.

Guys I don't have the exact hands with everybodys position for a lot of hands. However, the third hand I played on the button was great. I'm on the button with AJs. I raise for $10 and the old man calls. The guy to my left in cutoff calls and one more player in MP2 calls and we go 4 way. Flop comes Q A A. The old man bets the MP2 folds and the kid to my left calls. I push the guy next to me in for $50. The old man calls. Turn is a Q. I push the old man in for another $10. The old man shows me Quad Queens! And he wins. I almost fell out my chair laughing hysterically. The old man caught my ass. Good for him. Now I'm caught with a shortstack and laughing and playing with everybody.

So to make a long story short after a couple of hours of play and figuring out these lucy goosee table I'm up $200. LOL. Everybody is pretty much cool. I started getting drunk. I stopped ordering Redbull Vodkas and ordering Vodka Martini's. I told the lady "Shaken not stired." She looked at me and smiled. She told me I look cute. To bad she wasn't younger and I'm not getting married in a couple of months. People started nit picking at me now. One of the old men that was at the table was upset that I actually came to a decision on a hand and told me I need to hurry up and that I took to long. Keep in mind I'm getting drunk and I busted him out of a hand a while ago for $100 with a set of 7s. I'm getting irritated and I was going to single him out again b/c I had a bigger stack than the entire table. However, I txt up my girl and she came by to watch me.

An Asian lady sat down on my right and she was fairly new to poker. She was nice to my girl and I. She came in on a hand with me when I was holding pocket KKs. She raise and I just called. I have position on this woman and shes like a calling station. She busted out 3x in like 15mins. Anyway flop comes A K 7. She bets hard. Around $25. I see whats left and I ask her for what she has left to reraise her all in. All of a sudden she pulls chips out of the drink holder and pocket book and her coat. I start laughing and i said, "wow where did this come from." Dealer saw and told her you can't do that. Anyway river I show her a set of Kings and she had to rebuy once more.

The time is getting close for me to bounce. This old man with a pink shirt sits in the Asian lady's seat because the Asian lady moved to my left. The new old man with a pink shirt sat down on a table that I was at for 5 hours straight and decides to coach me now. He told me that I take to long and that I need to hurry up with my decisions. Now i don't want to be a jerk, but no limit is not so easy to an intermediate player. I talked a lot for a reason. I'm trying to get reads on players, calculate draws in my head, see if I can push people off of hands, and so forth. I apologize to him and the table and swallowed my pride. Its now 6:35 and the bus leaves at 6:50. I turned around and my fiancee bounced. I tried to make nice with the old man and saw he had a Rolex Submariner. I said nice watch and didn't happen to see he was all in and lost with K 10o against somebody with aces. This guy got real nasty with me. He verbally abused me stating that who cares about my watch I just lost my money. Guys on 2 + 2 sorry, but $100 is not that much to me and it shouldn't be for a guy wearing a Rolex watch in his late 60s. Come on now! This guy tries to coach me again. At this point I knew he was being a jerk off so I straight out told him look buddy I play 7 times a week and if anybody needs coaching its you and I can give it to you. He slams his fist on the table and leaves. I said screw it and walked away with my $250+. I shook everybodys hand and I gave the dealer another $4 tip and I wasn't in the hand. I rushed to the bus, slid half way down the banister perfectly. I thought I heard an old man say wow and I turned around and gave him a nod b/c I knew he liked that slide. I run to the bus and just make it. Wrong bus and my girls family tells me come to the correct bus and tell me "Adrian you took long, but did you win?" I show them my knot of cash tied down by my Coach clip
and they say "oh ok we understand." I sit down next to my girl who hammers me out for being late and is upset b/c once again its due to poker,lol.
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Old 09-17-2007, 10:41 AM
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Just me running my mouth again

Notice a couple of things of 1/2 NL play.

-Noticed that I pay attention a lot more than before. I see things at a different level now. NL is not just a game of let me bet anything b/c I have a lot of money. You have to make a bunch of decisions based upon the physical info and betting patterns of your players. I'm doing much better with that.

- People, especially some old people are very quick to make a decision and how can you in NL? NL is not like limit hold'em and these guys were treating it like that. They were thinking "I just won $50 last hand. I can gamble this money." Once you let people like me know that and actualy state that out loud I will take advantage of you. This is the difference between live and online I'm noticing. You can talk to people to get that info out of them very quickly. People's physical movements also gave that away. I'm counting odds and watching out for my position too. However, I still need help with pot equity and implied odds, which I forget to think about

- Caesar's is not the place for limit hold'em. I think its looked down upon there. I was on the list for LHE for 1 hour and the floor just automatically removed me b/c nobody wanted to get the table going. NLH is the new generation of poker.

-Hopefully casinos will start spreading PLO since people like to gamble a lot. However, I think people would be broke very fast and would complain a lot more.

- I think 2/5 NL may be much harder in general or in Caesar's. The guys were on the table were deep nearly $1,000. I think I'll play that capped one day to a $500 buyin. Are those guys that much better though? The people were way younger than the 1/2 NL table. Ipods and all too.

- People who play live NL watch way to much TV and are living a fantasy. I laughed at the old man when he put on his glasses after he announced his $25 bet to me. That was funny. Not being a jerk, but we ain't ballin if we betting $25 on a flop now. No need for the James Bond sunglasses,lol(don't take me wrong. I love James Bond movies too).

- I would like to play more NL live and maybe the tournys too, but I like internet 2/4 limit and still building a bankroll. Maybe I should build a nice solid roll and switch to 1/2 or 2/5 NL live? I'd probably have to build up $4,000-10,000 correct? While this is a huge range I can probably get this in a month or two playing online. Not a problem.

-Playing for 5 hours straight to make $250 isn't that bad. If I stayed I could have made some more probably.
- I can get my fiancee to stop bothering me about playing poker if I get her to come with me to Caesars, AC. She liked the shopping. I'll hear less complaining in my ear about me gambling too.

Internet vs Live. There's a lot of good players on the internet. Playing with them will help you get better. There's a whole lot of bad players live. That's +EV.

We get way more hands playing online. Live not that many. But guess what you can pull a bluff here and there too playing live.

- I'm not that bad playing poker. Have more confidence before, but not to much of an ego. Well unless you try to coach me. Coaching goes on a lot more live than online. I'm not sure why somebody would want to coach somebody else. You'll lose money in the long wrong giving away the correct way to play. Why do it?
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Old 09-17-2007, 06:15 PM
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is that your girlfriend in the pic?
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Old 09-17-2007, 06:51 PM
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please tell me about Caesars 1/2. How many see the flop if raised typically. I usually like to keep it to 3 or so and struggle when 6 continue to see flops and I don't hit. With that many seeing the flop a c-bet is useless. Any advice is appreciated
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Old 09-17-2007, 07:00 PM
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I struggle when 6 continue to see flops and I don't hit. With that many seeing the flop a c-bet is useless. Any advice is appreciated

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These are the world's easiest hands to play. Fold.
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Old 09-17-2007, 07:08 PM
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Default Re: Trip Report Caesar\'s AC, NJ.

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I struggle when 6 continue to see flops and I don't hit. With that many seeing the flop a c-bet is useless. Any advice is appreciated

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These are the world's easiest hands to play. Fold.

[/ QUOTE ] It depends on the person, position and so forth. A lot of players just try for top pair. I lot of people turned down Axx. If 6 or more are hitting the flop you better have a good hand and bet a strong bet on flop or turn and follow up on river.
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Old 09-17-2007, 07:09 PM
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is that your girlfriend in the pic?

[/ QUOTE ] You like that ass huh,lol!!!
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Old 09-17-2007, 08:32 PM
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I struggle when 6 continue to see flops and I don't hit. With that many seeing the flop a c-bet is useless. Any advice is appreciated

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These are the world's easiest hands to play. Fold.

[/ QUOTE ] It depends on the person, position and so forth. A lot of players just try for top pair. I lot of people turned down Axx. If 6 or more are hitting the flop you better have a good hand and bet a strong bet on flop or turn and follow up on river.

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Are we talking about the same sort of hands (i.e. where you "don't hit the flop")?

Three-barrel bluffing into six people is a great way to lose at 1/2 NL. These hands just aren't worth contesting when there are so many other spots to make easy money.
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Old 09-18-2007, 10:11 AM
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Default Re: Trip Report Caesar\'s AC, NJ.

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I struggle when 6 continue to see flops and I don't hit. With that many seeing the flop a c-bet is useless. Any advice is appreciated

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These are the world's easiest hands to play. Fold.

[/ QUOTE ] It depends on the person, position and so forth. A lot of players just try for top pair. I lot of people turned down Axx. If 6 or more are hitting the flop you better have a good hand and bet a strong bet on flop or turn and follow up on river.

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Are we talking about the same sort of hands (i.e. where you "don't hit the flop")?

Three-barrel bluffing into six people is a great way to lose at 1/2 NL. These hands just aren't worth contesting when there are so many other spots to make easy money.

[/ QUOTE ] I wouldn't suggest bluffing with 6 or more people at a NL game especially live. I said good cards above. You'll get called and people also look at the pot and count how much is in the pot and will probably ride you out to the river. 6 or more you have to have a solid draw or at least a strong pair with a follow up bet.
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