2/4 NL tough spot with QQ

Tornado69 · #1 11-12-2007, 06:58 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Button ($685.60)
SB ($194.03)
Hero ($495.70)
UTG ($346)
MP ($496.84)
CO ($488)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP calls $4, 3 folds, Hero checks.

Flop: ($10) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP checks.

Turn: ($10) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $20, Hero raises to $50, MP folds.

Final Pot: $80

this was a pot I had just played with the guy, this is the very next one ...

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CO ($685.60)
Button ($192.03)
Hero ($519.20)
BB ($346)
UTG ($472.84)
MP ($488)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $16, 1 fold, CO calls $16, Button calls $16, Hero raises to $70, 1 fold, UTG raises to $124, CO folds, Button folds, Hero ??

is he steaming ? what do you do ? His stats after 83 hands is 51/17/3.4

xorbie · #2 11-12-2007, 07:02 PM

im not sure if 200 or push is better.

FionnMac · #3 11-12-2007, 07:02 PM

you're in a classic squeeze pot and could have atc + villain is a retard = ez shove

btw first hand i lead flop, and if i don't i definitely lead turn.

Praetor · #4 11-12-2007, 07:18 PM

i would just shove now

i hate your play in the first one, bet the flop and DEFINITELY bet the turn

CalleAA · #5 11-12-2007, 08:42 PM

I would shove he might be steaming and his stats is not that impressing and villain might think that you are squeezing with any two here.

Tornado69 · #6 11-12-2007, 09:34 PM

Well I pushed and he called with fukin aces .. I just always run into big hands when situations like this come up. I watch them on cardrunners and it seems so standard yet I'm constantly getting busted at this level ... and then to make things just great the next hand on my other 2/4 table CO raised, on BTN I repopped with KK, he goes all in and I lose another full stack to AA. 2/4 is just killing me at the wrong times EVERY time ..

nuggetz87 · #7 11-12-2007, 09:54 PM

all-in...first hand is terrible on both streets though imo.

Lee_C · #8 11-12-2007, 10:21 PM

I don't think checking the flop on the first hand is +EV. You have to bet and not give a free card to a flush draw.

Tough luck on the QQ and KK's though. I don't like to push all-in with these hands pre-flop unless you are playing in a tourney and have a good read on the OP.

Good luck!

Teh1337zor · #9 11-12-2007, 10:23 PM

im potting flop in hand 1

Tornado69 · #10 11-12-2007, 10:43 PM

first pot is questionable yes ... but he was reraising a lot of flops. I didn't want to get in a reraised pot on the flop. Turn yes I should have led at it in retrospect ...