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Old 08-14-2007, 06:27 PM
scott111 scott111 is offline
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Should I bet?

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Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.25/$0.5
10 players
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Pre-flop: (10 players) hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, 2 folds, CO calls, Button folds, hero calls, BB checks.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5SB, 5 players)
hero checks, BB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, CO checks.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2.5BB, 5 players)
hero checks, BB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, CO checks.

River: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2.5BB, 5 players)
hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+2 bets</font>, 2 folds, hero ....

Results:
Final pot: 4.5BB
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Old 08-14-2007, 06:40 PM
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Default Re: strange hand

I don't bet the flop here (if that's what you're asking). Weak ace with 5 players on that board in first position isn't worth a bet IMO. Turn is a c/f obv. River I just fold because the pot is so small and you're chopping at best.
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Old 08-14-2007, 06:45 PM
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With fewer players you might bet the turn once know one has expressed interest in the pot on the flop. In this case it is very unlikely that everyone will fold and the pot is really small. Let it go.
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Old 08-14-2007, 08:17 PM
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On a purely meta level, the only hand that beats you is a royal flush and since even 1 card royals are rare I'd be tempted to call. Worst case you pay off a royal which if you did every chance you got wouldn't mean much to your overall win rate.
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Old 08-14-2007, 08:21 PM
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are we really that scared of one card?

i'd call, though its probably a math problem.
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Old 08-14-2007, 08:27 PM
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On a purely meta level, the only hand that beats you is a royal flush and since even 1 card royals are rare I'd be tempted to call. Worst case you pay off a royal which if you did every chance you got wouldn't mean much to your overall win rate.

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also 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img][/nit]
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Old 08-14-2007, 08:37 PM
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Flop check is fine. Turn check is fine when it's another heart. On the river, it's a no-brainer call. If everyone calls, you're basically wagering 1 BB to win slightly less than 1 SB (due to the rake), and you don't see the royal here more than 33% of the time because the second nut flush usually bets the turn. Once two players fold, you're now wagering 1 BB to win back that 1 SB plus at least to 1/3 of the 2 SB forfeited by the folders.
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Old 08-14-2007, 08:40 PM
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also Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] is not one hand. there are many combos with that Q.
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Old 08-14-2007, 08:44 PM
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MP1 and CO both folding shock me...

Their folds makes your call easy. If they all would of called, then a fold is fine because what you "win" will be sucked away by the rake and you may end up losing $$.

I think it is more interesting if we can get BB to fold if we raise [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Almost certain that UTG+2 does not have the Q because he would of most likely bet the turn w/ the 2nd nuts. He also will not have 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] here since he would have prolly bet the flop, but def bet the turn.
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Old 08-14-2007, 08:46 PM
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call riv.. a turn bet would not be advised.
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