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10-31-2006, 07:17 PM
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AA - I _know_ I\'m beat, where do I fold?
Is it possible to fold these Rockets?
SB,BB and UTG+1 seemed loose-passive, although only after 20-30 hands, don't have anything more specific I'm afraid. Poker Room skin Limit Holdem Ring game Limit: $0.15/$0.3 9 players Converter Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, 4 folds, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls. Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (10SB, 5 players) <font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB caps</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls. Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (14BB, 4 players) <font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises</font>, Hero calls, SB calls, BB calls. River: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (22BB, 4 players) SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG is all-in $0.3</font>, Hero calls, SB calls, BB folds. Results: Final pot: 25BB Comments on all streets welcome, this was a tough one [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] 
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10-31-2006, 08:08 PM
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Re: AA - I _know_ I\'m beat, where do I fold?
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[ QUOTE ] You can fold the turn. [/ QUOTE ]But it's not mandatory? [/ QUOTE ] Nope. I'd probably call down because I hate folding overpairs.
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10-31-2006, 08:17 PM
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Re: AA - I _know_ I\'m beat, where do I fold?
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You can fold the turn. [/ QUOTE ] With a gutshot and an overpair, you have 6 outs on the turn. It's still a call with the pot laying 7:1. So is the river, since it's just one more bet. Yes, you've probably lost to a set, but call anyway. I don't fold this hand.
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10-31-2006, 08:38 PM
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Re: AA - I _know_ I\'m beat, where do I fold?
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[ QUOTE ] You can fold the turn. [/ QUOTE ] With a gutshot and an overpair, you have 6 outs on the turn. [/ QUOTE ] Your gutshot is worthless and youre A outs may not be good, espeically the A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. I think the turn is a fold and it's not that close.
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#9
10-31-2006, 08:52 PM
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Re: AA - I _know_ I\'m beat, where do I fold?
BTW, before someone trots out Ed Miller's crushing microlimits post and similar platitudes: Folding when you think you're beat heads-up but you can get to showdown for 1-2BB, and folding when you're almost always beat multiway when a raising war is still going on, are very different things.
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#10
10-31-2006, 09:32 PM
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Re: AA - I _know_ I\'m beat, where do I fold?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] You can fold the turn. [/ QUOTE ] With a gutshot and an overpair, you have 6 outs on the turn. [/ QUOTE ] Your gutshot is worthless and youre A outs may not be good, espeically the A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. [/ QUOTE ] You're that certain someone has a 6? I'm not. I think the gutshot wins outright most of the time and chops/loses on occasion. As for the Ac, yes, it could make a flush, but the raising war here might have been between sets. I think 6 outs is pretty close to the correct value.
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