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Old 02-11-2007, 02:07 AM
TheSalche TheSalche is offline
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Default KK = th3 sux

Villain here is societymax, appears to be a solid multitabler, don't have any stats on him since I'm at another PC at the moment. I think I botched this hand by not 4-betting preflop and/or not stabbing at the flop. I figured all I beat is AQ and AK, so it wasn't much worth it. Good thinking by me?


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SB ($150.55)
BB ($102)
UTG ($104.10)
Hero ($117.65)
Button ($17.80)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $12</font>, Hero calls $8.

Flop: ($24.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($24.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $15</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $39.50
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Old 02-11-2007, 02:12 AM
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Default Re: KK = th3 sux

bet flop

as played call turn.

if the guy is solid his range is much wider than AQ+, JJ+
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Old 02-11-2007, 02:13 AM
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Default Re: KK = th3 sux

I'm fine with a call on the turn. You're under-repping your hand.
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Old 02-11-2007, 02:16 AM
Zaghomat Zaghomat is offline
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Default Re: KK = th3 sux

I would reraise preflop. as played I call the turn. He's reraising a CO raise, so his range can be wider than JJ+.
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Old 02-11-2007, 02:18 AM
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Default Re: KK = th3 sux

call turn. dont mind the flop check as much.
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Old 02-11-2007, 02:26 AM
RiverHebrew2 RiverHebrew2 is offline
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Default Re: KK = th3 sux

? He can't have AK here? Can't have TT? can't have AQ? 3bet pf to $35- and if he's REALLY solid then you're able to fold if he shoves. Y don't u bet this flop and check turn? his range is TT-AA, AK, and AQ. You lose to half his range. IMO, this is a 4bet preflop to narrow down his range. At least bet the damn flop plz. I don't mind your reasoning, but this is too uber-nitty.
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Old 02-11-2007, 02:40 AM
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Default Re: KK = th3 sux

flop check is fine and i call the turn. Your hand is so underrepped.
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Old 02-11-2007, 02:43 AM
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Default Re: KK = th3 sux

i'm never folding here...

flop check, i actually like a lot, but only to increase the value of turn/river.
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Old 02-11-2007, 04:04 AM
TheSalche TheSalche is offline
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Default Re: KK = th3 sux

As played, if I called the turn here what's my plan if an ace/ten/queen comes and he bets say 1/2 potish?
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Old 02-11-2007, 04:08 AM
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Default Re: KK = th3 sux

If a ten comes, call, if a queen comes...I still might be fine with a call. If he's betting the ace, it means he has it or can beat it, so a fold for that.
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