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Old 02-05-2007, 02:56 PM
MatthewRyan MatthewRyan is offline
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Default Re: Villain bets into my AK...sigh!

raising the flop would be great
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Old 02-05-2007, 04:46 PM
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i'd be looking for a value shove

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Old 02-05-2007, 04:54 PM
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raise flop. as played river call or value shove are close
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Old 02-05-2007, 04:55 PM
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Raise turn, I just call river, do not fold.
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Old 02-05-2007, 05:03 PM
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I have no idea why you would want to shove the river without a better read. Call is fine but you will still be behind a good % of the time.
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Old 02-05-2007, 05:20 PM
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Default Re: Villain bets into my AK...sigh!

River is a fold unless he is in love with AQ/AJ and with your reads apparently he is not a complete moron. Flop raise might be good.
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Old 02-05-2007, 05:27 PM
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Default Re: Villain bets into my AK...sigh!

River shove sucks.
Any decent villain will fold one pair to such a shove.
Raising on the turn sucks also, if you want to raise - raise on the flop, weaker ace may call a flop raise, but turn raise shows much more strenght.
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Old 02-05-2007, 05:31 PM
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River is a fold unless he is in love with AQ/AJ and with your reads apparently he is not a complete moron. Flop raise might be good.

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Folding on the river, having 1:3 on a call with TPTK without seeing any real strenght from villain is a huge mistake.
If you are so timid, then raise on the flop without putting any money after this. This is much better, than calling to the river and then folding to a medium bet.
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Old 02-05-2007, 05:37 PM
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Default Re: Villain bets into my AK...sigh!

Folding the river sucks...you have to have a read in this hand, but its much closer to a raise than a fold- I might min/raise this.

Why are you raising the turn? I think you lose tons of value there- are you calling a shove?
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Old 02-05-2007, 05:40 PM
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River is a fold unless he is in love with AQ/AJ and with your reads apparently he is not a complete moron. Flop raise might be good.

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Folding on the river, having 1:3 on a call with TPTK without seeing any real strenght from villain is a huge mistake.
If you are so timid, then raise on the flop without putting any money after this. This is much better, than calling to the river and then folding to a medium bet.

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Not seeing any real strength from villain?
Ok you have a tight image (check),
you raise preflop and get called out of position signaling a stronger than usual hand(check)
He bets into preflop raiser with an ace on board(check),
You call and he triple barrels you(check)
He has to know you have at least a big as you called him 2 street already yet he still value bets river(check)
yet villaing has not shown any strenght. Ok. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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