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Old 04-23-2006, 03:20 PM
Witzo Witzo is offline
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Default What\'s amount of profit is considered \"killing\" 1/2 NL?

Most people agree that if you make 2BB hour in limit your killing the game.
In a game like 1/2 NL what hourly profit is considered "Killing" the game? My guess is that 1/2 NL is about the financial equivilent of playing 4/8 limit so was guessing about $8-10 an hour is killing the game but was looking for confirmation on this.
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Old 04-23-2006, 03:43 PM
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Default Re: What\'s amount of profit is considered \"killing\" 1/2 NL?

just a wild guess, but i would think something more like an average of $20/hr would be 'killing' 1-2 nl at b&ms. i think the equivalent is higher than 4-8...probably more like 6-12.

my goal when i play is to make about $45-$50/hr playing 1-2 (i play for about 6-7 hrs sessions and my goal is $300 profit). I've been pretty good at doing this but if you factor in some bad days i think $20/hr is a reasonable expectation.

also - i usually play at $100 max buy-in tables. if you are playing at a $300 table this changes things.
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Old 04-23-2006, 03:51 PM
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Default Re: What\'s amount of profit is considered \"killing\" 1/2 NL?

Here in AC all the buy-ins are $300 and I don't consider myself to be "killing" a game unless I'm in the 40-50/hr range. Anything lower is just good.

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Old 04-23-2006, 03:52 PM
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Default Re: What\'s amount of profit is considered \"killing\" 1/2 NL?

The ones who can really play 1/2 NL will sustain about a 12-15/hr win rate over a long period of time. 2/5 Nl is more like 22-27/hr.

To ryan, 45-50/hr with your money management isn't going to last.
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Old 04-23-2006, 03:55 PM
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Default Re: What\'s amount of profit is considered \"killing\" 1/2 NL?

Note that the OP asked what a "killing it" amount is, not a sustainable amount.

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Old 04-23-2006, 04:02 PM
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Default Re: What\'s amount of profit is considered \"killing\" 1/2 NL?

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The ones who can really play 1/2 NL will sustain about a 12-15/hr win rate over a long period of time. 2/5 Nl is more like 22-27/hr.

To ryan, 45-50/hr with your money management isn't going to last.

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i know it won't...but lately it seems pretty easy to earn this rate, even in sessions where i'm not getting cards! i also like setting goals that are high, although not so high that they are unreachable...it works for me.

what do you mean by "with your money management" ???

i'd be interested to hear some more actual numbers from people who keep good track of 1-2 nl b&m play and have a large sample size (i don't have either...)
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Old 04-23-2006, 04:04 PM
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Default Re: What\'s amount of profit is considered \"killing\" 1/2 NL?

i thought he meant long term because beating a limit game for 2 BB/hr IN A SESSION is not killing it...
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Old 04-23-2006, 04:18 PM
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Default Re: What\'s amount of profit is considered \"killing\" 1/2 NL?

Yeah I guess I poorly wrote that question.

First off the NL game I play live is 1/2 NL 100 max. My question was more long term profit, what is considered killing the game. I was under the assumption that you can essentially equate 1/2 NL to a limit counterpart to figure out a bb/hour win rate.
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Old 04-23-2006, 04:49 PM
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Default Re: What\'s amount of profit is considered \"killing\" 1/2 NL?

If you really are "killing" 1/2 NL, you will move up to a larger game well before you get a statistically significant sample size to calculate your hourly to a great enough precision for anyone to care. You should look more at bankroll management strategy for moving up and forget your exact hourly. If your question is more academic in nature, you probably won't get a very satisfactory answer since it's not really all that important.
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Old 04-23-2006, 04:51 PM
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Default Re: What\'s amount of profit is considered \"killing\" 1/2 NL?

More academic. The pokerroom I play at the 5/10 NL game is mostly regulars that have a reputation of softplay and collusion and honestly not worth playing.
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