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Old 05-11-2007, 04:18 PM
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Default FTP 5/10 with AA

I want to see what people think of this one. Villain is zer0h who is playing 26/16/1.5, and seems kind of bad. I don't think he would ever turn a hand like 99 or JJ into a bluff. With the preflop action there is almost no way he would show up with KK. Maybe bet/folding the river is the best line, but I just didn't see him calling a bet with a medium pair after the K fell.


Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $5/$10 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $1,009.00
<font color="black">Hero (BB): $2,256.00</font>
UTG: $1,811.00
MP: $1,005.00
CO: $4,744.00
BTN: $1,808.00

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $35.00</font>, MP folds, CO calls $35.00, BTN calls $35.00, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $170.00</font>, UTG calls $135.00, CO folds, BTN calls $135.00

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($550) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $300.00</font>, UTG folds, BTN calls $300.00

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($1150) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

<font color="black">River:</font> ($1150) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets all-in for $1,338.00</font>, Hero folds
Uncalled bet of $1,338.00 returned to BTN

Pot Size: $1,150.00 ($3 Rake)
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Old 05-11-2007, 04:21 PM
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Default Re: FTP 5/10 with AA

weeeeird hand, really hard to put him on anything other than quads and I agree that this guy isn't bluffing (w/ air or a made hand)
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Old 05-11-2007, 04:21 PM
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Default Re: FTP 5/10 with AA

Do you put him on a 10? 10J ss?
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Old 05-11-2007, 05:54 PM
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Default Re: FTP 5/10 with AA

WE'VE GOT A FULL HOUSE!

I call
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Old 05-11-2007, 06:43 PM
Gullanian Gullanian is offline
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Default Re: FTP 5/10 with AA

I'd find it hard to put this hand down. Villain knows you 99% don't have a 10 when you check the river. He would do this move with a king.
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Old 05-11-2007, 06:47 PM
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Default Re: FTP 5/10 with AA

CTS analysis is spot on, but what Tx hand could he really show up with, how bad is he?
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Old 05-11-2007, 06:52 PM
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Default Re: FTP 5/10 with AA

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CTS analysis is spot on, but what Tx hand could he really show up with, how bad is he?

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We are fairly deep so I can see him calling with hands like Q10s to 108s.
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Old 05-11-2007, 06:52 PM
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I'd find it hard to put this hand down. Villain knows you 99% don't have a 10 when you check the river. He would do this move with a king.

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How can he show up with a king here? I would be amazed if he floated me with something like AK or KQ.
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Old 05-11-2007, 07:53 PM
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Default Re: FTP 5/10 with AA

why cant he be floating the flop with a king? i dont fold here. if he has a T i chalk it up to a cooler and say NH.
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Old 05-11-2007, 08:15 PM
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Default Re: FTP 5/10 with AA

This really is an interesting hand. I think your image and history with villain is very important. How aggressive have you been this session? Do you squeeze often?

I'm really not sure I agree with a fold here. It already looks like you were squeezing with a less-than-stellar hand preflop, and with the turn and river check, you've really underrepresented your hand.

Most people's "natural instinct" for quads is to slowplay them, but I believe villain made a mistake by slowplaying them on this hand. If he thought you had a real hand, then he should have just raised the flop to try to win a big pot and avoid potential scare cards (e.g. he put you on JJ-KK and an overcard). If he thought that you really did have nothing, then he should know that you're probably giving up after the flop without improvement. If he thought that you have nothing (at best AK) and HE has nothing, then floating here is very bad. He should simply raise the flop to try to take it away.

I call this bet. Cooler if he's got it.
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