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Old 12-31-2006, 05:46 PM
Rook Rook is offline
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Default ($11)TT first hand

No reads, Villain isn't a regular

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button (t1500)
SB (t1500)
BB (t1500)
Hero (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1500)
MP3 (t1500)
CO (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t80</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls t80, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB calls t60.

Flop: (t250) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t200</font>, MP2 calls t200, BB folds.

Turn: (t650) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets t1220 (All-In)</font>, Hero?

Anyone have a problem with my c-bet on the flop? Do you believe Villain has a J or Q?
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Old 12-31-2006, 05:52 PM
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Default Re: ($11)TT first hand

I wouldn't call the turn. If it was a blank I'd call.
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Old 12-31-2006, 06:02 PM
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Default Re: ($11)TT first hand

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I wouldn't call the turn. If it was a blank I'd call.

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Old 12-31-2006, 06:14 PM
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Default Re: ($11)TT first hand

I didn't call the turn, but I can't for the life of me assign a range of hands he'd take this line with. In the end, I just decided it was an over eager player who either caught part of this board (hopefully not the two) or had an overpair. The chance of him bluffing with this line was there, but not enough to risk all my chips on the first hand.

At least that was my thinking.
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Old 12-31-2006, 06:19 PM
hamnegger hamnegger is offline
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Default Re: ($11)TT first hand

yes you are beat fold if not so what look for a better spot to get chips in. you made an ok c flop bet but w 10 10 utg u get callers and board comes overs u r prob beat
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Old 12-31-2006, 10:05 PM
Mech0T1 Mech0T1 is offline
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Default Re: ($11)TT first hand

I strongly agree with the c-bet, I make them almost all the time (and they work at the levels I play at), plus with a pair on board it's usually a good flop to make a c-bet at. I tend to agree with others who say someone may be getting over-eager/paranoid with AA/KK (which I often do, I'd much rather be allin before the flop!). I also agree with the fold. Either he's a maniac who can't let go of his AK, a total bluff based on your turn check, he's got AA/KK or he's got part of the flop (and it's not the deuce). Methinks it's the latter. Most of those beat you.

I don't think you made any mistakes.
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Old 12-31-2006, 10:15 PM
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Default Re: ($11)TT first hand

call preflop for set value

good as played, if you folded
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Old 12-31-2006, 10:45 PM
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Default Re: ($11)TT first hand

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call preflop for set value

good as played, if you folded

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I'm not a big fan of open limping TT. It's right there on the fringe, but I prefer raising it, as it can win unimproved vs fewer opponents. I don't think open limping with this hand is wrong, I just don't like doing it. 99 would definitely be an open limp.

P.S. If I were in late position facing 3-4 limpers, then I may limp behind with TT.

P.P.S. I did fold, though I was very unhappy about it. More so because of villains strange line than anything else.
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Old 12-31-2006, 10:49 PM
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Default Re: ($11)TT first hand

limp PF. id bet less on the flop. there really isnt a difference between 160 and 200 on this flop. id fold the turn
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