pair vs. spew machine

[Chaos_ult]

Looks like he was bluffing the flop, turned a good bluff card, and rivered a backdoor flush.

imo.

[my1ifesavins]

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Looks like he was bluffing the flop, turned a good bluff card, and rivered a backdoor flush.

imo.

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ha sounds about right i'd fold turn but i mean i also havn't seen someone over 200 hands with an 25 af.. fold riv

[dirtylobster]

River is an obvious fold but that's not what you wanted to know, right? I'd start raising a lot of flops against him. Especially this one where you have middle pair, it's probably way ahead of his cbetting range. Don't give him the advantage of having you guessing, put some pressure back on him.

[JFsports]

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River is an obvious fold but that's not what you wanted to know, right? I'd start raising a lot of flops against him. Especially this one where you have middle pair, it's probably way ahead of his cbetting range. Don't give him the advantage of having you guessing, put some pressure back on him.

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I dunno, against guys who are addicted to betting every street I just call down a lot. Do you think playing back is much better whether we have monster/TP/middle pair/other?

[dirtylobster]

Dunno either, I play very aggressively so I usually raise c-bets with everything between air -- the nuts if I feel someone is trying to run me over. Calling down is also fine but obv. not in this hand. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[JFsports]

yeah ok that's fair! I suppose it's kinda hard to say which is better without seeing a specific hand. What's hugely important too is if they are capable LAGs or retardo-LAGs

[DaycareInferno]

i don't really like to r/f flops with marginal showdown power against people that never do anything but bet or fold. against most people, i'd r/f the flop with a 6x or whatever, because sometimes i will actually get called and either suckout or have the best hand. i'm not really sure what my question is, by the way.