3-betting ranges

Entity · #1 02-23-2006, 07:38 AM

$30/60. Horrible 50/20 player limps. 56/28 raises. Coldcalled by a 55/10. You're in the cutoff. The Button is a solid-playing TAG. Blinds are both too loose and fairly aggressive players, but not as loose as the donks upfront. In the range of ~30% VPIP.

What's your range of 3-betting hands here?

Rob

DeathDonkey · #2 02-23-2006, 07:46 AM

Raise: 99+, AJo+, ATs+, KQs.
Coldcall a bunch of others.

-DeathDonkey

mc123 · #3 02-23-2006, 09:29 AM

You got three great monkeys to be in position with, I would liberally 3bet almost any two I'm going to play here just to give myself the button and for value since I have position over 3 donkeys and possibly more if the donkey blinds call.

hands like 67,89,9Ts .. any two paint suited.. ATs+.. basically any hand that plays well multiway I would 3bet here for value/deception on flops I hit nice on.

Paluka · #4 02-23-2006, 10:28 AM

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Raise: 99+, AJo+, ATs+, KQs.
Coldcall a bunch of others.

-DeathDonkey

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This looks like pretty good advice.

bicyclekick · #5 02-23-2006, 10:37 AM

Ehh I think 3 betting those mid suited cards is over rated. Just call with them.

Dan BRIGHT · #6 02-23-2006, 11:52 AM

what about a9s? Do we ever cold call with a8s or a7s? I'm murky there but ive been folding them and 3betting in accordance with donkeys post. im cold calling good mutlway hands like 9ts, qjs etc

bicyclekick · #7 02-23-2006, 12:21 PM

Yeah I cold-called A7s a couple days ago. It's not a real common play but sometimes is the right one.

Paluka · #8 02-23-2006, 12:22 PM

I think the suited aces below ATs are the most interesting hands in this spot. I'm really not sure what is the best thing to do with them.

The DaveR · #9 02-23-2006, 12:55 PM

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Raise: 99+, AJo+, ATs+, KQs.
Coldcall a bunch of others.

-DeathDonkey

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I've got just a smidge less 3-betting and more coldcalling than you.

PokerBob · #10 02-23-2006, 01:01 PM

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I think the suited aces below ATs are the most interesting hands in this spot. I'm really not sure what is the best thing to do with them.

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i think this is where FEEL becomes super important, and may make this play undoable online. Axs can make a 2nd best ace quite often, so one has to be able to get away from it.