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Old 03-16-2007, 11:12 PM
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Default Rail Bird hand from 1k/2k horse game. Deli meat thin 7th st VB

Sorry for the lack of a converter. What do you think of the 7th street bet? After the results I thought it pretty awesome.


texdolly is low with [7c]
texdolly brings in for $300
Bomba Clot completes it to $1,000
captain12345 folds
CaseyAtTheBat folds
texdolly calls $700
*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to Bomba Clot [8d] [Tc]
Dealt to texdolly [7c] [9h]
captain12345 adds $20,000
Bomba Clot checks
texdolly checks
*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to Bomba Clot [8d Tc] [4d]
Dealt to texdolly [7c 9h] [4c]
Bomba Clot bets $2,000
texdolly calls $2,000
*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to Bomba Clot [8d Tc 4d] [Jc]
Dealt to texdolly [7c 9h 4c] [Kd]
texdolly checks
Bomba Clot bets $2,000
texdolly calls $2,000
*** 7TH STREET ***
texdolly bets $2,000
Bomba Clot calls $2,000
*** SHOW DOWN ***
texdolly shows [9c 6s 7c 9h 4c Kd 2h] (a pair of Nines)
Bomba Clot mucks
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Old 03-16-2007, 11:57 PM
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Default Re: Rail Bird hand from 1k/2k horse game. Deli meat thin 7th st VB

I don't understand Doyle's 4th street check at all.
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Old 03-17-2007, 01:02 AM
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Default Re: Rail Bird hand from 1k/2k horse game. Deli meat thin 7th st VB

it's always very hard to judge a game and peoples reason for acting without any history or player data, especially on such a high level, shorthanded game, but it seems to me the 4th street check contradicts to anything the Stud chapter in Super System teach about the game, LOL
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Old 03-17-2007, 04:10 AM
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Default Re: Rail Bird hand from 1k/2k horse game. Deli meat thin 7th st VB


I think the 4th street check is because Doyle is a bit suspicious of BC failure to c-bet with a fairly strong board.

He may be thinking that if BC is weak he's very weak, with something like 2 baby cards down, so that Doyle's not that vulnerable to a freecard.

I think very few people would be going for a c-rz in BC's spot so I don't like it, but I think it's within reason.

I think the 7th street play is very good but I wouldn't quite categorize it as a thin value bet.

I think Doyle thinks there's a good chance he's ahead, but moreover he feels he won't be raised if he's behind (because he can represent a flush), and also if he's behind he thinks BC will bet anyway and he will have to call.

What I don't get is the 3rd street play. Even if the 3rd street board were ideal for a steal by BC, would you still call with 9c6s7c against an 8d?
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Old 03-17-2007, 11:24 AM
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Default Re: Rail Bird hand from 1k/2k horse game. Deli meat thin 7th st VB

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What I don't get is the 3rd street play. Even if the 3rd street board were ideal for a steal by BC, would you still call with 9c6s7c against an 8d?

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I gather they are playing 4-handed. The hand history is not complete and doesn't show the other players' up cards. I assume this is stud high. Texdolly may have views the complete as an ante steal and thought he had pot odds to call.

This TexDolly is a real fish, so I am sure he makes a lot of strange plays.
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Old 03-17-2007, 11:51 AM
Micturition Man Micturition Man is offline
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Default Re: Rail Bird hand from 1k/2k horse game. Deli meat thin 7th st VB


So do you have an answer to the question?

And don't assume that because someone is supposed to be a good player everything they do is right.
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Old 03-17-2007, 11:57 AM
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Default Re: Rail Bird hand from 1k/2k horse game. Deli meat thin 7th st VB

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So do you have an answer to the question?

And don't assume that because someone is supposed to be a good player everything they do is right.

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They are playing short handed and we don't have the full hh. He may think his oponent is on a steal or that he can steal the pot later. I am sure Doyle is aware of basic hand values.
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Old 03-17-2007, 12:12 PM
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The question is whether you would call here given a favorable steal board for the 8d.

Yes/No?
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Old 03-17-2007, 12:16 PM
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The question is whether you would call here given a favorable steal board for the 8d.

Yes/No?

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Wouldn't know. I don't play 1K/2K.
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Old 03-17-2007, 12:21 PM
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Wow that's a lot of squirming just to avoid saying that Doyle did something that seems wrong to you.
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