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Old 11-24-2007, 05:33 PM
Kanis Kanis is offline
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There's a 5/10 local live game that is perfect for 'peddling' aces, and I'll buy in for the min and this strategy has not worked out well for me.

All-in for 2.8k PF with AAJTds vs KJ35 unsuited, lost when he turns trip threes.

All-in with KKJTds for $1800, my friend who I have staked had AA75us and was all-in for $800. The other guy had K266ss, and won when he flopped quads.

Particularly, the guy who flopped quads never folds preflop. If you 3/4-bet him, he'll say "I know what you got, them aces." And call any amount of his stack away just to crack them.

Had several -5k nights 'Slotbooming'.

God, I run bad at live Omaha.

[/ QUOTE ]Well, it is pretty obvious the tactic has huge variance. You could almost compare it to coin flip since in Omaha almost no hand is big dog like in Hold 'em.

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Which is a better matchup.

Top 20% of NL hands vs worst 20%
Top 20% of PLOhands vs worst 20%

[/ QUOTE ]In Omaha there are a lot of more hands. It's true that if you compare match-ups between AAJT vs. 2222 and AA vs. 22 Hold 'em wins. People are though smart enough not to push with worst hands. These hands include most likely trips and unconnected rainbows.

I think better match-up would be top PLO hands but still Omaha has bigger variance than Hold 'em.
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Old 11-24-2007, 05:36 PM
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So for those playing at home, would you care to correct your statement:

"in Omaha almost no hand is big dog like in Hold 'em."
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Old 11-24-2007, 05:41 PM
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You're having the most semantically useless argument I've ever heard.
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Old 11-24-2007, 05:43 PM
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You're having the most semantically useless argument I've ever heard.

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I think you have some tense problems in you're sentence structure.
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Old 11-24-2007, 05:59 PM
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I used pokerstove to get the top 20% hands for HE, then the top 80% hands and hands picked the bottom 20%(there aren't many hands left besides the top 80%). The result I got shows top 20% holdem hands is 70/30 against bottom 20%.

Anyone knows how to do PLO? I know how to do top X% but not bottom X%.
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Old 11-24-2007, 06:17 PM
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I used pokerstove to get the top 20% hands for HE, then the top 80% hands and hands picked the bottom 20%(there aren't many hands left besides the top 80%). The result I got shows top 20% holdem hands is 70/30 against bottom 20%.

Anyone knows how to do PLO? I know how to do top X% but not bottom X%.

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This is indeed a trick question because...how do you rate PLO hands due to the intransitivity of the transitive properties of PLO hands?
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Old 11-24-2007, 07:24 PM
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I used pokerstove to get the top 20% hands for HE, then the top 80% hands and hands picked the bottom 20%(there aren't many hands left besides the top 80%). The result I got shows top 20% holdem hands is 70/30 against bottom 20%.

Anyone knows how to do PLO? I know how to do top X% but not bottom X%.

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Omaha just doesn't work like this. For the most part, an omaha hand's value is determined on-and-after the flop, not when the cards are dealt.
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Old 11-24-2007, 07:45 PM
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Delete this thread. Ugh.
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Old 11-24-2007, 08:03 PM
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Delete this thread. Ugh.

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Felt, I hope ur gorilla fur catches on FIRE the next time you cook up some GREASE to make hotwings. I don't however hope that you DIE, just like 2nd or 3rd degree burns.

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Old 11-24-2007, 08:15 PM
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Delete this thread. Ugh.

[/ QUOTE ]I hear you. If it means anything, I'm tired of questions and opinions about Slotboom's short stack strategy and tactics too.

But it's a fact of life that you'll face it, and you'll need to be able to cope, and people will continue to struggle with this and have questions about it.

And you may even find it useful sometimes yourself.

In about a week, I fully expect a new software system for all the 2+2 forums. (See the sticky at the top of the listing for this forum). I'm not sure what that will mean in terms of what we can and cannot do - and so I'm delaying in getting some good FAQs covered - but I haven't forgotten about it.

Maybe that will make things better or easier, and I always can move posts about books or authors to the books and publications forum. And keep in mind that I'm not a computer guru and am still learning how to deal with various aspects of threads and posts on 2+2 forums in general and this forum in particular.

At any rate, I am pretty much at least scanning all the threads and posts in this forum, and spending some time studying some of them. In my humble opinion, this particular thread has some good, interesting stuff on it, so that, at least for now, I'm not deleting it or moving it.

But I do hear you.

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