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Old 11-15-2007, 11:39 AM
Apathy Apathy is offline
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Well said Tx, I think you could just save that and post it in about half the threads with the one name changed in it to fit whoever the thread happens to be about.

All that being said, this forum in my mind is FOR those people... the "armchair quarterbacks" of the poker world... and if you write a blog, win a tournament, do an interview, start a website called shipitholla or bring any attention to yourself you have to expect to hear from these people and not let it get to you too much.
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Old 11-15-2007, 11:56 AM
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Good post tex.

Shannon,

"It has been a losing one, but 90% of my 2007 losses are from live MTTs (all 40 of them...how do you like that sample size?)."

That's sarcasm right? 40 MTts is obviously nothing, about the equivilant to like 4000 hands of nl cash.

GL turning it around.
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Old 11-15-2007, 11:59 AM
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Btw in the spirit of honesty: I was down in poker in 2007 until Aprilish.
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Old 11-15-2007, 12:06 PM
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I dont want to derail this thread as Tex and SS made fantastic posts and anything written after would just seem nonsensical.

Best of luck in whatever u choose Shannon.

You dont know me but i felt like replying anyway...

Your ability to be honest with yourself is admirable. I think alot of ppl are so much quicker to flame than to give genuine replies so not to be perceived as weak, when in all actuality they would trade places with you in a heartbeat.

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Good post tex.

Shannon,

"It has been a losing one, but 90% of my 2007 losses are from live MTTs (all 40 of them...how do you like that sample size?)."

That's sarcasm right? 40 MTts is obviously nothing, about the equivilant to like 4000 hands of nl cash.

GL turning it around.

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Ansky, how do you quantify this?

I kno ur a super sick player, im just wondering where u arrive at the conclusion 40mtts = 4k hands of nl cash. Are u just speaking in strictly # of hands dealt? Surely i am not thinking about this correctly..... any insight is much appreciated
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Old 11-15-2007, 12:08 PM
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This is an outstanding thread, and the timing for me personally could not be better.
I'm basically so sick of poker than I could vomit, and I'm not even a losing player. I've won a decent amount of money over the years playing low stakes, but it has become painfully obvious to me that I'm never going to move up where I can make the ZOMG TONS OF MONEY ASTON MARTIN ZOMG that so many people want you to believe EVERYONE can make at this game. I have a tremendous amount of respect for the high limit ballas, they really have an amazing talent and gift to be so successful at this game. I have nothing but love for them, no hate at all.

I've realized personally in the past few months that poker is just a drag for me now. I'd rather spend time furthering my career, going on dates, working out, etc. than spending all my spare time in some crappy casino with a bunch of degenerates, listening to lousy table talk, getting sick because none of these slobs ever wash their hands, on and on and on and on.

Even though I'm a small winner, I've basically given up poker. The small amount of money I've won pales in comparison to the other great things in life there is to do. I can totally see anybody giving up the game. If I had seen myself writing this post two years ago, I would not have believed it.

Good luck.
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Old 11-15-2007, 12:18 PM
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Default Re: Shannon Shorr thinking of quitting ...

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Good post tex.

Shannon,

"It has been a losing one, but 90% of my 2007 losses are from live MTTs (all 40 of them...how do you like that sample size?)."

That's sarcasm right? 40 MTts is obviously nothing, about the equivilant to like 4000 hands of nl cash.

GL turning it around.

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Yeah, he was being sarcastic...And, fwiw, I have a lot of respect for Shannon as a person and for wearing his heart on his sleeve on this issue. What SS described in his blog is a struggle that many of us endure in the (tournament especially) poker world...However, Shannon was just too dramatic/extreme in his blog, and it's no surprise that people react badly to someone who has been very successful and is now turning around and calling it a "stupid game" all in a very short time-frame and even though that's a thought that many of us have probably felt at various times.

I'm struggling with many of the same issues, but I don't have a large bankroll to show for it (cuz I suck at managing and accumulating money), and yet I recognize that being able to be part of the poker world was an enormous opportunity for me, whether it takes me another five years to get my [censored] together or even if it never happens at all, and I'm forced to quit.

Shannon, the reason your blog rubbed people the wrong way is because of the lack of perspective inherent to it--even though your struggle is real, it seems you should be able to incorporate more of the positive experiences from your journey in poker when taking a look back to assess the whole thing...Deciding you'd rather take your life in a different direction is totally reasonable, but people are going to react understandably negatively to someone who's had a ton of success and now turns around and calls poker a "stupid game."

You gotta realize the fact that you have a large bankroll to show for your poker experiences, and despite your Chines Poker donkishness, your career thus far has been a huge success and you should be accordingly proud/satisfied/not overwhelmed by the tension ingrained in this lifestyle.
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Old 11-15-2007, 12:21 PM
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Shannon, best of luck in whatever you decide. Ignore the riff raff obviously. I always admire honesty.

Tx, well done.
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Old 11-15-2007, 12:24 PM
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I dont want to derail this thread as Tex and SS made fantastic posts and anything written after would just seem nonsensical.

Best of luck in whatever u choose Shannon.

You dont know me but i felt like replying anyway...

Your ability to be honest with yourself is admirable. I think alot of ppl are so much quicker to flame than to give genuine replies so not to be perceived as weak, when in all actuality they would trade places with you in a heartbeat.

[ QUOTE ]
Good post tex.

Shannon,

"It has been a losing one, but 90% of my 2007 losses are from live MTTs (all 40 of them...how do you like that sample size?)."

That's sarcasm right? 40 MTts is obviously nothing, about the equivilant to like 4000 hands of nl cash.

GL turning it around.

[/ QUOTE ]

Ansky, how do you quantify this?

I kno ur a super sick player, im just wondering where u arrive at the conclusion 40mtts = 4k hands of nl cash. Are u just speaking in strictly # of hands dealt? Surely i am not thinking about this correctly..... any insight is much appreciated

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It's not a real quantification, just a rough rough estimate.
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Old 11-15-2007, 12:29 PM
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Default Re: Shannon Shorr thinking of quitting ...

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All that being said, this forum in my mind is FOR those people... the "armchair quarterbacks" of the poker world... and if you write a blog, win a tournament, do an interview, start a website called shipitholla or bring any attention to yourself you have to expect to hear from these people and not let it get to you too much.

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I agree- poker is supposed to be irreverent (we're not curing any diseases here), but I also think you can reach a critical mass of morons on this board where it simply becomes unreadable. And as for the professional players in the public eye, some of them almost invite and enjoy the harassment, like one of these "villain" characters in professional wrestling. I don't think anyone could ever rag on Matusow too much, for example. But if a nice and classy guy like Shannon Shorr is trying to make serious points, they should be treated with respect.
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Old 11-15-2007, 12:32 PM
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Default Re: Shannon Shorr thinking of quitting ...

"I've played like a Swedish maniac "

lolol were not all maniacs. im nitty.
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