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Old 08-14-2007, 10:27 AM
futuredoc85 futuredoc85 is offline
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Default 2/4 Didnt want to make 2 pair here

Villain is LanderD, pretty aggro pre and post. thoughts on all streets appreciated.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $427.10
BB: $705.20
UTG: $573.40
Hero (MP): $560.25
CO: $189.95
BTN: $402.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $16.00</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $52.00</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $36.00

Flop: ($110) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($110) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $78.00</font>, Hero:?
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Old 08-14-2007, 10:27 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 Didnt want to make 2 pair here

i'm honestly not buying that villain has a hand
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Old 08-14-2007, 10:28 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 Didnt want to make 2 pair here

only possible good holding really is KQ
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Old 08-14-2007, 10:53 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 Didnt want to make 2 pair here

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only possible good holding really is KQ

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Why can't he have AK, T9s etc.?
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Old 08-14-2007, 10:57 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 Didnt want to make 2 pair here

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only possible good holding really is KQ

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Why can't he have AK, T9s etc.?

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AK will bet the flop most of the time, i beat T9s
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Old 08-14-2007, 11:01 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 Didnt want to make 2 pair here

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only possible good holding really is KQ

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Why can't he have AK, T9s etc.?

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AK will bet the flop most of the time, i beat T9s

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Doh, i was actually thinking about 89s instead of T9s but guess he would betting the flop with that too..
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Old 08-14-2007, 11:22 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 Didnt want to make 2 pair here

bet the flop, you have TPTK on a drawy board.

on the turn, what about raising? i am kind of lost what to do here too...any suggestions?
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Old 08-14-2007, 01:31 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 Didnt want to make 2 pair here

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Villain is LanderD, pretty aggro pre and post. thoughts on all streets appreciated.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $427.10
BB: $705.20
UTG: $573.40
Hero (MP): $560.25
CO: $189.95
BTN: $402.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $16.00</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $52.00</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $36.00

Flop: ($110) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($110) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $78.00</font>, Hero:?

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youd think he'd bet Kx on the flop, no? ace is obviously a good scare card because his most likely hand is absoltuely nothing.

call and check the river, time to be a hero!
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Old 08-14-2007, 01:48 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 Didnt want to make 2 pair here

I started a similar thread a day or two ago in mid-stakes dealing with exactly these sorts of situations, but it didn't get much love. Too bad because I think playing these spots OOP leave you with no good options. c/c, c/f? c/c, c/c? Both of those seem really bad to me. The advice I received from the one poster who responded was to play it has if you had the stronger hand (in this case the K) on the turn, then c/f river because he will not have called turn without a hand at least as good as you, and he won't turn any made hands into bluffs by betting.
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Old 08-14-2007, 02:45 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 Didnt want to make 2 pair here

You say he's pretty aggro pre and postflop. If you've got a tight image, I'd reckon he'd 3-bet a wide range in position to isolate you, then bet any scare card after a weak turn like that.

If I'm suitably rolled and the read is good, I'll play the variance game with him and hope I'm not the sucker this time. He could easily have AT-AK, 9T, TJ, JQ with your read and that play. Call and donk value bet the river.
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