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Old 08-30-2007, 02:23 PM
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1 more vote for shove. Not many boards i would felt TPTK against an unknown with this action, but this is one.
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Old 08-30-2007, 02:32 PM
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Default Re: This is an insta.....

Interested in why a dry board makes you more willing to felt rather then being more afraid of a monster. I mean, does the fact that he can't be repping much except a set make this move very strong. And if so, then should we be looking to take this line with some bluffs then?
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Old 08-30-2007, 02:43 PM
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shove i would never fold

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Old 08-30-2007, 02:59 PM
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No reads and BB presumably has no reads on you. Folding feels ugly but I think it's the right thing to do.
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Old 08-30-2007, 03:01 PM
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fold i would never shove
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Old 08-30-2007, 03:05 PM
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Interested in why a dry board makes you more willing to felt rather then being more afraid of a monster. I mean, does the fact that he can't be repping much except a set make this move very strong. And if so, then should we be looking to take this line with some bluffs then?

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im not suggesting he'd fold often, i just think there are too many combo draws in his range to fold. There arent many 2pr hands im afraid of here maybe K8s or 86s, but thats it.
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Old 08-30-2007, 03:09 PM
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No reads and BB presumably has no reads on you. Folding feels ugly but I think it's the right thing to do.

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Old 08-30-2007, 03:58 PM
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Default Re: This is an insta.....

The reasons I have a hard time shoving:

1) His range is limited to powerhouses in which we are drawing thin to dead if called.
2) He won't call if he was infact bluffing.
3) A bluff by him here seems silly since we are obviously calling with any reasonable holding (atleast this is the sentiment i get from the majority of posters thus far).
4) The size of his raise screams value town mofo...valuetown.

Why I hate folding:

1) We got AK on K crap board. May be best hand.
2) Seems like we could get exploited if he is perceptive enough to pick up on our line.
3) It may be worth the gamble to get a read on him for later.


If anyone can think of more pros and cons, by all means chime in...

Oh, and a few have mentioned the dryness of the board. To those, is this fact advantageous to our holding or the opposite?
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Old 08-30-2007, 04:09 PM
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shove i would never fold
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Old 08-30-2007, 04:12 PM
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