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Old 07-20-2007, 08:02 AM
Matt Williams Matt Williams is offline
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Default If you could go back into time to 1980 as a baseball GM.

You have the first pick in the draft. Knowing EVERYTHING about their futures, do you pick Cal Ripken Jr. or Tony Gwynn? Assume neither has been drafted yet.

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Old 07-20-2007, 08:11 AM
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Default Re: If you could go back into time to 1980 as a baseball GM.

I think it's Ripken and that it's not particularly close.
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Old 07-20-2007, 08:13 AM
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Default Re: If you could go back into time to 1980 as a baseball GM.

Why? His SS value?
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Old 07-20-2007, 08:19 AM
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Default Re: If you could go back into time to 1980 as a baseball GM.

Ripken was like Ernie Banks. For the first half of his career, he was one of the greatest SSes of all time. For the last half, he was average at another position.

Ripken's 1991 season is better than anything Gwynn's ever done.
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Old 07-20-2007, 08:20 AM
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Default Re: If you could go back into time to 1980 as a baseball GM.

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Ripken was a great defensive shortstop.
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Old 07-20-2007, 08:21 AM
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Default Re: If you could go back into time to 1980 as a baseball GM.

Tony Gwynn. Neither was an impact player defensively (Ripken's sure hands plus poor range equals average, despite what his fans would like to think) and only one was an impact player at the plate. Ripken's mystique comes from the games streak, which has limited value in terms of production/winning/losing. Gwynn's mystique comes from the potential to hit .400, which has massive value in terms of winning.

Ripken was simply an average to slightly-above average hitter...a relatively consistent .280 / 20 / 80 guy. Nice for the era, but not worth throwing a party over.
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Old 07-20-2007, 08:23 AM
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Default Re: If you could go back into time to 1980 as a baseball GM.

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Why? His SS value?

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Ripken was a great defensive shortstop.

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I was just curious if that was his reason.
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Old 07-20-2007, 08:32 AM
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Default Re: If you could go back into time to 1980 as a baseball GM.

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Ripken was simply an average to slightly-above average hitter

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Maybe after he turned 30. For the first half of his career he hit like Derek Jeter and fielded like Omar Vizquel.
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Old 07-20-2007, 09:25 AM
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Default Re: If you could go back into time to 1980 as a baseball GM.

i was hoping i could be given the option of killing off dallas green.
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Old 07-20-2007, 09:36 AM
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Default Re: If you could go back into time to 1980 as a baseball GM.

This is a very interesting comparison. They played the same number of years and had nearly the same number of hits. I'll take Gwynn for his batting average, glove and ability to steal bases before he got fat.
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