Teach me to play craps

[mhcmarty]

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So seriously. What is your normal stategy when playing. Pass line w/some odds behind. then take 6&8? Howe does this stategy sound?

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That's how I normally play. I may get flamed because yes I know the dice have no memory, but be patient the game can be quite swingy. Look for momentum and take winnings to increase the money on the table. A hot streak should end with you having a fair amount of $$$ on the table. This is where money management comes in. I make sure I'm taking profits off the table but also increasing my bets slowly.

I also prefer to play downtown Vegas where there are plenty of tabels to move to.

As far as playing the don't. It's not fun.

[asterion]

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Another question: do you take more odds on certain points?

[/ QUOTE ]I'd say no. Make the same odds bet each time. It should all average out in the long run. You could reduce the variance a bit by betting less on 4/10 and 5/9--I've seen casinos that have something like 3x odds on 4/10, 4x odds on 5/9, and 5x odds on 6/8 as well as others that limit you to low odds amounts like 2x but then allow "full double odds" on 6/8, i.e. 2.5x, but I say make the same bet each time.

What you should do is figure out how much you're willing to bet and then figure out how to make the largest odds bet possible. Say a casino offers 20x odds. If I wanted to bet $100 each time, I'd probably bet $5 on the pass line and $95 on the odds. Then, of course, the question is what's the increase in house edge betting 19x odds instead of 20x odds and would I be better off overall betting that extra $5.

[SheetWise]

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expert nit strategy:

put the smallest amount of monies allowed on the "don't pass" portion of the table when the hockey puck is black side up. (don't bet on the "pass" line. everyone will hate you for betting "against" the table, but you can just remind them that you are saving $46 per $100,000 wagered this way. they will understand.)

after the roller rolls if the casino people don't take your monies or give you more monies you can put some extra monies behind the original bet (however much it takes for the swings to be fun, this extra bet has a 0% house advantage). a true nit skips this step.

when everybody else cheers, you lose monies. when everybody else boos, you rake in the monies.

repeat until sufficiently drunk and/or bored and proceed to strip club.

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Homer -- I would consider it an honor to make a donation with you some evening. You know your sh*t.

I would, of course, incorporate the house agents into my game. But somehow I think you already know that ...

[pvn]

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Complete idiots guide to playing craps:

1. Walk up to table
2. Wait until the shooter (person rolling dice) is not rolling.
3. Put money on table in front of dealer. Receive chips.
4. Wait until the puck (black/white disc used to denote which number is the point) is "Off" (will be black with white lettering).
5. Place min bet for the table on the pass line.
6. If shooter rolls 7 or 11 you win. Take winnings leave pass line bet. A 2, 3 or 12 and you lose. Replace pass line bet. Any other number becomes the point.
7. Place double your original bet directly behind your original passline bet (but not on the passline).
8. Hope shooter rolls the point.
9. Profit.

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Way too complicated.

1. Walk up to table
2. drop money on table, get chips
3. put minimum money on "come". If it's not the right time, dealer will helpfully move it to "pass" for you.
4. after dice are rolled drop everything else you have and say "odds". Dealer will helpfully give you back everything over the max odds.
5. repeat 3, 4 forever (or until all chips are gone). When everyone at the table cheers, you collect money.

[NajdorfDefense]

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So you're saying since I suck at poker I should quit my job today and become a professional craps shooter? Are the bankroll requirements the same? 300bb or 20 bi?

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Yes, 20 BI of the table maximum [so like $10k on a $5 table], or 50 BI if you haven't been leveled.

My method is foolproof and has shown an annual profit every year for 15 years in a row, which is not leveling but possibly some very good luck...and, er...skill.

[AquaSwing]

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As far as playing the don't. It's not fun.

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It is when the table is full of tools and the shooter establishes three or four come bets while you're on the don't and then he rolls a 7 and everyone at the table loses everything and then the dealer shoves you a giant stack of chips and you yell, "SHIP IT!"

[mhcmarty]

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you yell, "SHIP IT!"

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An accurate visualization of a "tool".

[PhilHelmet]

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As far as playing the don't. It's not fun.

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Don't pass is the only way to go.. Yea, you don't make any friends but you will make more money in the long run. Short streaks (lot's of pass dice, i.e 7 OUT) are more common, and happen a lot as opposed to that one real hot roll. Most people will get a hot roll, press all their bets and not take any profits. Or, even worse win a bunch of money just to stand there for another hour and give it all back during the cold streak.

With don't pass/don't come, you always know were you are at in a hand.

BET DONT!

[AquaSwing]

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you yell, "SHIP IT!"

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An accurate visualization of a "tool".

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Was wondering if someone would notice that comment. I do play the don't sometimes but quietly pick up my huge stack of chips.

[Jimbo]

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Yea, you don't make any friends but you will make more money in the long run

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What if you don't live long enough to reach the long run. You do realize the difference in the house edge between a do and a don't player is so small as to be overcome easily by simple variance in the short amount of time you will ever spend playing craps during your lifetime don't you?

Jimbo