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Old 11-24-2007, 06:09 PM
Bill Ivey Bill Ivey is offline
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Default Turn spot in the stars 320

UTG+1 seems solid, 3 betting a couple times on the bubble, and hasn't shown down anything yet.

The other guy is loose/passive/fishy. He sees a lot of flops and makes loose calls.

Poker Stars, $300 + $20 NL Hold'em Tournament, 600/1,200 Blinds, 7 Players
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SB: 21,471
Hero (BB): 51,213
UTG: 27,271
UTG+1: 20,358
MP: 27,514
CO: 47,565
BTN: 11,082

Pre-Flop: (2,675) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG folds, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises to 3,125</font>, MP folds, CO calls 3,125, 2 folds, Hero calls 1,925

Flop: (10,850) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks

Turn: (10,850) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero ?
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Old 11-24-2007, 06:18 PM
Bakes Bakes is offline
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Default Re: Turn spot in the stars 320

you want to bet the card that probably hit UTG+1 the hardest?
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Old 11-24-2007, 06:24 PM
Steve Williams Steve Williams is offline
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Default Re: Turn spot in the stars 320

I would check/call the turn, up to 2/3PSB. Semibluffing an A in a raised 3 way pot is unlikely to win. The player most likely to hold an A is UTG + 1 and you have good relative position on him. If he bets &amp; the fish calls you are getting great odds with your draw.
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Old 11-24-2007, 06:28 PM
Hattifnatt Hattifnatt is offline
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Default Re: Turn spot in the stars 320

how many left?

I would probably fold preflop and check the turn.
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Old 11-24-2007, 06:29 PM
Bill Ivey Bill Ivey is offline
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Default Re: Turn spot in the stars 320

I was thinking check-raise, but his stack is a bit small, so would a bet/call be terrible? But what am I repping?
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Old 11-24-2007, 06:44 PM
TheNewf TheNewf is offline
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Default Re: Turn spot in the stars 320

just fold pre, seriously. As played prob just check/call and pray you get there, I don't think you have any FE
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Old 11-24-2007, 08:00 PM
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Default Re: Turn spot in the stars 320

Definitely fold preflop. You can c/c depending on bet size I think. c/r sucks because he is never folding an A.
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Old 11-24-2007, 08:00 PM
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Default Re: Turn spot in the stars 320

I'd always fold pf but if I hadn't, I'd donk the flop. Any reasonable bet puts UTG+1 to a stack decision and if he's willing to ship it in then on that flop, he wasn't bet/folding the flop anyway and generally not letting you see a free turn or in any other way presenting a way of taking the pot away.

As for the other guy, if UTG folds and he calls, that's no bad thing this deep even OOP for a cash game player? He'll be a bag of timing and bet size tells and will give you two cards more way more than most here, if I've got a handle on the type.

Obviously, if there's no flop you'd ever donk, then don't but I think our best chance of turning a profit, once you're there, is on the flop.
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Old 11-24-2007, 09:30 PM
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Default Re: Turn spot in the stars 320

check/fold&gt; check/call (depending on bet sizing)
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Old 11-24-2007, 09:36 PM
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Default Re: Turn spot in the stars 320

fold preflop pleeeeease
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